This is my summer playlist of podcast where I guested this past year. In this appearance on “Burnout, Invisible Labor & the Feminist Fight to Rest” on Feminist Founders, I talk with host Becky Mollenkamp about how women’s invisible labor – caregiving, administration, and housework – contributes to their higher rates of burnout. I’ve alluded to this dynamic all of the first season, but I go into much more depth with Becky Mollenkamp on Feminist Founders about how this impacts women, their relationships, their bodies and we talk about simple, game-changing strategies.

Take a listen to my conversation with Becky on Feminist Founders:

💬 Discussed in This Episode

• What burnout really is (and why it’s more than just being tired)
• How gendered expectations and invisible labor feed chronic overwhelm
• The critical role of embodiment and nervous system work in healing
• Why capitalist and white supremacist systems depend on our burnout
• The illusion of spaciousness and what it means to actually rest
• How meditation doesn’t have to look like sitting still and saying "om"
• The power of giving yourself permission to not volunteer at the damn PTO
• How to plan your schedule to not be a human version of a doctor's waiting room
• Why moms get guilted and dads don’t—and what that says about our systems

📚 Resources Mentioned

"Burnout" by Emily & Amelia Nagoski

"Fair Play" by Eve Rodsky

"Sacred Rest" by Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith

"Essentialism" by Greg McKeown

"Rest is Resistance" by Tricia Hersey

The Nap Ministry on Instagram

🎧 This show is part of the Feminist Podcast Collective, a community of progressive creators reclaiming media through storytelling and solidarity.

📙 Get "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp at https://liberateyourbusiness.com/

00:00 Introduction to Summer Playlist Series on Just Rest

01:22 Introduction to Feminist Founder's series on Women's Invisible Labor

02:33 New Awareness of Burnout

03:11 Definition of Burnout

06:11 Invisible Labor and Its Impact on Women

08:25 Cultural Pressures on Women that Contribute to Burnout

14:13 Strategies for Managing Burnout

22:00 Creating Space for Rest and Joy

26:17 The Importance of Mindfulness and Somatic Practices

32:55 Collective Trauma and the Impact of Modern Life

34:58 Strategies for Avoiding Burnout

38:21 Understanding Rest and Its Many Forms

43:30 Creativity, Consumption, and the Need for Spaciousness

Connect with Becky Mollenkamp & Feminist Founders

Website: https://feministfounders.co/

Threads: https://threads.com/@beckymollenkamp

Substack: https://feministfounders.substack.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/feminist-business/

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Season 1 of Just Rest is officially done — and I went live on Substack to celebrate, say thank you, and make some big announcements about what's coming next, including a major life change that starts this fall. (Note: the sound of the episode isn’t the quality I usually have because of being live and some tech issues.)

In this live session, we talk about:

• The Season 1 Cozy Wrap Party highlights — trivia, favorite clips, and community
• 12 episodes, 700+ downloads, and the people who made it happen
• A reading of every single name who helped crowdfund this podcast into existence
• The summer season: guest appearance episodes dropping every other week
• The Year of Expansion — what it is, where I'm headed first, and why I'm doing it
• An invitation for you to help shape Season 2

Want to support the Year of Expansion? Here's how:

• 🎙️ Become a Rest Rebel Collective subscriber — defythetrend.substack.com
• 💛 Become a Founding Member — defythetrend.substack.com
• 🙏 Help fund Radical Dharma Camp — https://square.link/u/Q8yx3Fqq
• 🎧 Suggest a Season 2 guest or topic — defythetrend@gmail.com
• 🎤 Leave a voice memo on SpeakPipe — speakpipe.com/justrest
• 📨 Send a note of encouragement — defythetrend@gmail.com

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Just Rest Podcast and Season One Wrap-Up
02:20 Just Rest Summer Playlist
04:12 YOUR suggestions for Season 2
06:43 Life Update: Year of Expansion and Nomadic Living
10:22 Exploring New Places and Networking Opportunities
12:36 Ways to Support the Podcast and Community
14:46 Help Nicole Attend Radical Dharma Camp

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The Calm Calendar Club is a brain-friendly planning community for neurodivergent adults, ADHD minds, and sandwich-generation caregivers who are tired of systems that don’t fit real life. We help you build a flexible, values-based calendar that reduces chaos and protects your energy. This low-cost, community-based program is ready for you at defythetrend.com/calm-calendar.

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Season one ends the way it began — with radical permission. In this final episode, Nicole compiles the "Dear Rest Rebels" messages from every guest this season, and the result is something you'll want to save, return to, and play on repeat. Hear wisdom from Dana Tenille Weekes, Jordan Maney, Jacki Hayes, Taina Brown, Elaina Ramsey, Ixchel Lunar, Becky Mollenkamp, Malik Turley, and Catharine Montgomery — each offering their own unique reminder that you are enough, you are worthy, and it is safe to rest. And Anna DeShawn gets the final word, because honestly? She earned it. Bookmark this one. Come back to it when the world is loud and your body is tired. This is your permission slip, on repeat.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Dear Rest Rebels Compilation Episode

02:39 Dear Rest Rebels Notes

07:13 Season Wrap-Up and Future Plans

CONNECT WITH GUESTS

Dana Tennille Weekes: https://therestofuspodcast.com/
Jordan Maney: https://substack.com/@thejordanmaney
Jacki Hayes: https://www.jackihayes.co/
Taina Brown: info@tainambrown.com
Ixchel Lunar: https://ixchellunar.com/
Malik Turley: https://tapasmovement.com
Catharine Montgomery: https://thebettertogetheragency.com
Becky Mollenkamp: https://beckymollenkamp.com/
Elaina Ramsey: https://www.faithchoiceohio.org
Anna DeShawn: https://queernewspod.substack.com

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