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  • Sobering Up on AI Progress w/ Dr. Sean McGregor

    Sobering Up on AI Progress w/ Dr. Sean McGregor
    Dec 29 2025
    Sean McGregor and I discuss about why evaluating AI systems has become so difficult; we cover everything from the breakdown of benchmarking, how incentives shape safety work, and what approaches like BenchRisk (his recent paper at NeurIPS) and AI auditing aim to fix as systems move into the real world. We also talk about his history and journey in AI safety, including his PhD on ML for public policy, how he started the AI Incident Database, and what he's working on now: AVERI, a non-profit for frontier model auditing.Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:36) - What's broken about benchmarking (03:41) - Sean’s wild PhD (14:28) - The phantom internship (19:25) - Sean's journey (22:25) - Market-vs-regulatory modes and AIID (32:13) - Drunk on AI progress (38:34) - BenchRisk (43:20) - Moral hazards and Master Hand (50:34) - Liability, Section 230, and open source (59:20) - AVERI (01:11:30) - Closing thoughts & outroLinksSean McGregor's websiteAVERI websiteBenchRiskBenchRisk websiteNeurIPS paper - Risk Management for Mitigating Benchmark Failure Modes: BenchRiskNeurIPS paper - AI and the Everything in the Whole Wide World BenchmarkAIIDAI Incident Database websiteIAAI paper - Preventing Repeated Real World AI Failures by Cataloging Incidents: The AI Incident DatabasePreprint - Lessons for Editors of AI Incidents from the AI Incident DatabaseAIAAIC website (another incident tracker)Hot AI SummerCACM article - A Few Useful Things to Know About Machine LearningCACM article - How the AI Boom Went BustUndergraduate Thesis - Analyzing the Prospect of an Approaching AI WinterTech Genies article - AI History: The First Summer and Winter of AICACM article - There Was No ‘First AI Winter’Measuring GeneralizationNeural Computation article - The Lack of A Priori Distinctions Between Learning AlgorithmsICLR paper - Understanding deep learning requires rethinking generalizationICML paper - Model-agnostic Measure of Generalization DifficultyRadiology Artificial Intelligence article - Generalizability of Machine Learning Models: Quantitative Evaluation of Three Methodological PitfallsPreprint - Quantifying Generalization Complexity for Large Language ModelsInsurers Exclude AIFinancial Times article - Insurers retreat from AI cover as risk of multibillion-dollar claims mountTom's Hardware article - Major insurers move to avoid liability for AI lawsuits as multi-billion dollar risks emerge — Recent public incidents have lead to costly repercussionsInsurance Newsnet article - Insurers Scale Back AI Coverage Amid Fears of Billion-Dollar ClaimsInsurance Business article - Insurance’s gen AI reckoning has comeSection 230Section 230 overviewLegal sidebar - Section 230 Immunity and Generative Artificial IntelligenceBad Internet Bills websiteTechDirt article - Section 230 Faces Repeal. Support The Coverage That’s Been Getting It Right All Along.Privacy Guides video - Dissecting Bad Internet Bills with Taylor Lorenz: KOSA, SCREEN Act, Section 230Journal of Technology in Behavioral Health article - Social Media and Mental Health: Benefits, Risks, and Opportunities for Research and PracticeTime article - Lawmakers Unveil New Bills to Curb Big Tech’s Power and ProfitHouse Hearing transcript - Legislative Solutions to Protect Children and Teens OnlineRelevant Kairos.fm EpisodesInto AI Safety episode - Growing BlueDot's Impact w/ Li-Lian AngmuckrAIkers episode - NeurIPS 2024 Wrapped 🌯Other LinksEncyclopedia of Life websiteIBM Watson AI XPRIZE websiteML Commons websiteWikipedia article
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    1 h et 14 min
  • Against 'The Singularity' w/ Dr. David Thorstad

    Against 'The Singularity' w/ Dr. David Thorstad
    Nov 24 2025
    Philosopher Dr. David Thorstad tears into one of AI safety's most influential arguments: the singularity hypothesis. We discuss why the idea of recursive self-improvement leading to superintelligence doesn't hold up under scrutiny, how these arguments have redirected hundreds of millions in funding away from proven interventions, and why people keep backpedaling to weaker versions when challenged.David walks through the actual structure of singularity arguments, explains why similar patterns show up in other longtermist claims, and makes the case for why we should focus on concrete problems happening right now like poverty, disease, the rise of authoritarianism instead of speculative far-future scenarios.Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:13) - David's background (08:00) - (Against) The Singularity Hypothesis (29:46) - Beyond the The Singularity (39:56) - What We Should Actually Be Worried About (49:00) - Philanthropic FundingLinksDavid's personal websiteReflective Altruism, David's blogThe Singularity HypothesisDavid's Philosophical Studies article - Against the singularity hypothesisTime "AI Dictionary" page - SingularityEA Forum blogpost - Summary: Against the singularity hypothesisJournal of Conciousness Studies article - The Singularity: A Philisophical AnalysisInterim Report from the Panel Chairs: AAAI Presidential Panel on Long-Term AI FuturesEpoch AI blogpost - Do the returns to software R&D point towards a singularity?Epoch AI report - Estimating Idea Production: A Methodological SurveyFunding ReferencesLessWrong blogpost - An Overview of the AI Safety Funding SituationAISafety.com funding pageReport - Stanford AI Index 2025, Chapter 4.3Forbes article - AI Spending To Exceed A Quarter Trillion Next YearAI Panic article - The “AI Existential Risk” Industrial ComplexGiveWell webpage - How Much Does It Cost To Save a Life?Wikipedia article - Purchasing power parityPascal's Mugging and the St. Petersburg ParadoxWikipedia article - St. Petersburg ParadoxConjecture Magazine article - Pascal’s Mugging and Bad Explanationsneurabites explainer - Ergodicity: the Most Over-Looked AssumptionWikipedia article - Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidenceThe Time of PerilsGlobal Priorities Institute working paper - Existential risk pessimism and the time of perilsEthics article - Mistakes in the Moral Mathematics of Existential RiskPhilosophy & Public Affairs article - High Risk, Low Reward: A Challenge to the Astronomical Value of Existential Risk MitigationToby Ord Book - The PrecipiceRethink Priorities blogpost - Charting the precipiceAI Futures Project blogpost - AI 2027Trump's Higher Education Threat CompactWikipedia article - Compact for Academic Excellence in Higher EducationPen America explainer - What is Trump’s Compact for Higher Education? And More Frequently Asked QuestionsStatement by the Vanderbilt AAUP Executive Committee on the “Compact for Academic Excellence in Higher Education”The Vanderbilt Hustler article - BREAKING: Chancellor Daniel Diermeier fails to reject higher education compact, reaffirms Vanderbilt’s values and openness to discussionThe Vanderbilt Hustler article - Students and faculty organize rally outside Kirkland Hall against Trump administration’s higher education compactFree Speech Center article - Compact for Academic ExcellenceMore of David's WorkGlobal Priorities Institute working paper - What power-seeking theorems do not showBook - Essays on LongtermismVibe ShiftBlood in the Machine article - GPT-5 Is a Joke. Will It Matter?Futurism article - Evidence Grows That GPT-5 Is a Bit of a DudGary Marcus substack - GPT-5: Overdue, overhyped and underwhelming. And that’s not the worst of it.Pew Research report - How the U.S. Public and AI Experts View Artificial IntelligenceN...
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    1 h et 9 min
  • Getting Agentic w/ Alistair Lowe-Norris

    Getting Agentic w/ Alistair Lowe-Norris
    Oct 20 2025
    Alistair Lowe-Norris, Chief Responsible AI Officer at Iridius and co-host of The Agentic Insider podcast, joins to discuss AI compliance standards, the importance of narrowly scoping systems, and how procurement requirements could encourage responsible AI adoption across industries. We explore the gap between the empty promises companies provide and actual safety practices, as well as the importance of vigilance and continuous oversight.Listen to Alistair on his podcast, The Agentic Insider!As part of my effort to make this whole podcasting thing more sustainable, I have created a Kairos.fm Patreon which includes an extended version of this episode. Supporting gets you access to these extended cuts, as well as other perks in development.Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:46) - Trustworthy AI and the Human Side of Change (13:57) - This is Essentially Avatar, Right? (23:00) - AI Call Centers (49:38) - Standards, Audits, and Accountability (01:04:11) - What Happens when Standards aren’t Met?LinksIridius websiteGPT-5 CommentaryWhere's Your Ed At blogpost - How Does GPT-5 Work?Zvi LessWrong blogpost - GPT-5: The Reverse DeepSeek momentBlood in the Machine article - GPT-5 Is a Joke. Will It Matter?Futurism article - Evidence Grows That GPT-5 Is a Bit of a DudGary Marcus substack - GPT-5: Overdue, overhyped and underwhelming. And that’s not the worst of it.Customer Service and AI AdoptionGartner press release - Gartner Survey Finds 64% of Customers Would Prefer That Companies Didn't Use AI for Customer ServicePreprint - Deploying Chatbots in Customer Service: Adoption Hurdles and Simple RemediesKDD '25 paper - Retrieval And Structuring Augmented Generation with Large Language ModelsGlobal Nerdy blogpost - Retrieval-augmented generation explained “Star Wars” styleThe Security Cafe article - A Quick And Dirty Guide To Starting SOC2StandardsISO overview - AI management systemsISO standard - ISO/IEC 42001CyberZoni guide - ISO 42001 The Complete GuideA-LIGN article - Understanding ISO 42001ISO standard - ISO/IEC 27001ISO standard - ISO/IEC 42005Governance and RegulationNIST framework - AI Risk Management FrameworkEU AI Act article - Article 99: PenaltiesColorado Senate Bill 24-205 (Colorado AI Act) webpageUtah Senate Bill 149 webpageMicrosoft AI ComplianceSchellman blogpost - Microsoft DPR AI Requirements and ISO 42001Microsoft documentation - ISO/IEC 42001 AI Management System offeringMicrosoft webpage - Responsible AI Principles and ApproachMicrosoft Service Trust Portal documentation - Responsible AI Standard v2Microsoft documentation - Supplier Security & Privacy Assurance Program Guide v11 April 2025
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    1 h et 12 min
  • Growing BlueDot's Impact w/ Li-Lian Ang

    Growing BlueDot's Impact w/ Li-Lian Ang
    Sep 15 2025
    I'm joined by my good friend, Li-Lian Ang, first hire and product manager at BlueDot Impact. We discuss how BlueDot has evolved from their original course offerings to a new "defense-in-depth" approach, which focuses on three core threat models: reduced oversight in high risk scenarios (e.g. accelerated warfare), catastrophic terrorism (e.g. rogue actors with bioweapons), and the concentration of wealth and power (e.g. supercharged surveillance states). On top of that, we cover how BlueDot's strategies account for and reduce the negative impacts of common issues in AI safety, including exclusionary tendencies, elitism, and echo chambers.2025.09.15: Learn more about how to make design effective interventions to make AI go well and potentially even get funded for it on BlueDot Impact's AGI Strategy course! BlueDot is also hiring, so if you think you’d be a good fit, I definitely recommend applying; I had a great experience when I contracted as a course facilitator. If you do end up applying, let them know you found out about the opportunity from the podcast!Follow Li-Lian on LinkedIn, and look at more of her work on her blog!As part of my effort to make this whole podcasting thing more sustainable, I have created a Kairos.fm Patreon which includes an extended version of this episode. Supporting gets you access to these extended cuts, as well as other perks in development.(03:23) - Meeting Through the Course (05:46) - Eating Your Own Dog Food (13:13) - Impact Acceleration (22:13) - Breaking Out of the AI Safety Mold (26:06) - Bluedot’s Risk Framework (41:38) - Dangers of "Frontier" Models (54:06) - The Need for AI Safety Advocates (01:00:11) - Hot Takes and Pet PeevesLinksBlueDot Impact websiteDefense-in-DepthBlueDot Impact blogpost - Our vision for comprehensive AI safety trainingEngineering for Humans blogpost - The Swiss cheese model: Designing to reduce catastrophic lossesOpen Journal of Safety Science and Technology article - The Evolution of Defense in Depth Approach: A Cross Sectorial AnalysisX-clusion and X-riskNature article - AI Safety for EveryoneBen Kuhn blogpost - On being welcomingReflective Altruism blogpost - Belonging (Part 1: That Bostrom email)AIxBioRAND report - The Operational Risks of AI in Large-Scale Biological AttacksOpenAI "publication" (press release) - Building an early warning system for LLM-aided biological threat creationAnthropic Frontier AI Red Team blogpost - Why do we take LLMs seriously as a potential source of biorisk?Kevin Esvelt preprint - Foundation models may exhibit staged progression in novel CBRN threat disclosureAnthropic press release - Activating AI Safety Level 3 protectionsPersuasive AIPreprint - Lies, Damned Lies, and Distributional Language Statistics: Persuasion and Deception with Large Language ModelsNature Human Behavior article - On the conversational persuasiveness of GPT-4Preprint - Large Language Models Are More Persuasive Than Incentivized Human PersuadersAI, Anthropomorphization, and Mental HealthWestern News article - Expert insight: Humanlike chatbots detract from developing AI for the human goodAI & Society article - Anthropomorphization and beyond: conceptualizing humanwashing of AI-enabled machinesArtificial Ignorance article - The Chatbot TrapMaking Noise and Hearing Things blogpost - Large language models cannot replace mental health professionalsIdealogo blogpost - 4 reasons not to turn ChatGPT into your therapistJournal of Medical Society Editorial - Importance of informed consent in medical practiceIndian Journal of Medical Research article - Consent in psychiatry - concept, application & implicationsMedia Naama article - The Risk of Humanising AI Chabots: Why ChatGPT Mimicking Feelings Can BackfireBecker's Behavioral Health blogpost - OpenAI’s mental health roadmap: 5 things to knowMiscellaneous ReferencesCarnegie Council blogpost - What Do We Mean When We Talk About "AI Democratization"?Collective Intelligence Project policy brief - Four Approaches to Democratizing AIBlueDot Impact blogpost - How Does AI Learn? A Beginner's Guide with ExamplesBlueDot Impact blogpost - AI safety needs more public-facing advocacyMore Li-Lian LinksHumans of Minerva podcast websiteLi-Lian's book - Purple is the Noblest ShroudRelevant Podcasts from Kairos.fmScaling Democracy w/ Dr. Igor Krawczuk for AI safety exclusion and echo chambersGetting into PauseAI w/ Will Petillo for AI in warfare and exclusion in AI safety
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    1 h et 8 min
  • Layoffs to Leadership w/ Andres Sepulveda Morales

    Layoffs to Leadership w/ Andres Sepulveda Morales
    Aug 4 2025
    Andres Sepulveda Morales joins me to discuss his journey from three tech layoffs to founding Red Mage Creative and leading the Fort Collins chapter of the Rocky Mountain AI Interest Group (RMAIIG). We explore the current tech job market, AI anxiety in nonprofits, dark patterns in AI systems, and building inclusive tech communities that welcome diverse perspectives.Reach out to Andres on his LinkedIn, or check out the Red Mage Creative website!For any listeners in Colorado, consider attending an RMAIIG event: Boulder; Fort Collins(00:00) - Intro (01:04) - Andres' Journey (05:15) - Tech Layoff Cycle (26:12) - Why AI? (30:58) - What is Red Mage? (36:12) - AI as a Tool (41:55) - AInxiety (47:26) - Dark Patterns and Critical Perspectives (01:01:35) - RMAIIG (01:10:09) - Inclusive Tech Education (01:18:05) - Colorado AI Governance (01:23:46) - Building Your Own Tech CommunityLinksTech Job MarketLayoff tracker websiteThe Big Newsletter article - Why Are We Pretending AI Is Going to Take All the Jobs?METR preprint - Measuring the Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Developer ProductivityAI Business blogpost - https://aibusiness.com/responsible-ai/debunking-the-ai-job-crisisCrunchbase article - Data: Tech Layoffs Remain Stubbornly High, With Big Tech Leading The WayComputerworld article - Tech layoffs surge even as US unemployment remains stableApollo Technical blogpost - Ghost jobs in tech: Why companies are posting roles they don’t plan to fillThe HR Digest article - The Rise of Ghost Jobs Is Leaving Job Seekers Frustrated and DisappointedA Life After Layoff video - The Tech Job Market Is Hot Trash Right NowEconomy Media video - Will The Tech Job Market Ever Recover?Soleyman Shahir video - Tech CEO Explains: The Real Reason Behind AI LayoffsDark PatternsDeceptive Design websiteJournal of Legal Analysis article - Shining a Light on Dark PatternsICLR paper - DarkBench: Benchmarking Dark Patterns in Large Language ModelsComputing Within Limits paper - Imposing AI: Deceptive design patterns against sustainabilityCommunications of the ACM blogpost - Dark Patterns[Preprint] - A Comprehensive Study on Dark PatternsColorado AI RegulationSenate Bill 24-205 (Colorado AI Act) bill and webpageNAAG article - A Deep Dive into Colorado’s Artificial Intelligence ActColorado Sun article - Why Colorado’s artificial intelligence law is a big deal for the whole countryCFO Dive blogpost - ‘Heavy lift’: Colorado AI law sets high bar, analysts sayDenver 7 article - Colorado could lose federal funding as Trump administration targets AI regulationsAmerica's AI Action Plan documentOther SourcesConcordia Framework report and repo80,000 Hours websiteAI Incident Database website
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    1 h et 40 min
  • Getting Into PauseAI w/ Will Petillo

    Getting Into PauseAI w/ Will Petillo
    Jun 23 2025
    Will Petillo, onboarding team lead at PauseAI, joins me to discuss the grassroots movement advocating for a pause on frontier AI model development. We explore PauseAI's strategy, talk about common misconceptions Will hears, and dig into how diverse perspectives still converge on the need to slow down AI development.Will's LinksPersonal blog on AIHis mindmap of the AI x-risk debateGame demosAI focused YouTube channel(00:00) - Intro (03:36) - What is PauseAI (10:10) - Will Petillo's journey into AI safety advocacy (21:13) - Understanding PauseAI (31:35) - Pursuing a pause (40:06) - Balancing advocacy in a complex world (45:54) - Why a pause on frontier models? (54:48) - Diverse perspectives within PauseAI (59:55) - PauseAI misconceptions (01:16:40) - Ongoing AI governance efforts (SB1047) (01:28:52) - The role of incremental progress (01:35:16) - Safety-washing and corporate responsibility (01:37:23) - Lessons from environmentalism (01:41:59) - Will's superlativesLinksPauseAIPauseAI-USRelated Kairos.fm EpisodesInto AI Safety episode with Dr. Igor KrawczukmuckrAIkers episode on SB1047Exclusionary TendenciesJacobin article - Elite Universities Gave Us Effective Altruism, the Dumbest Idea of the CenturySSIR article - The Elitist Philanthropy of So-Called Effective AltruismPersuasion blogpost - The Problem with Effective AltruismDark Markets blogpost - What's So Bad About Rationalism?FEE blogpost - What’s Wrong With the Rationality Community?AI in WarfareMaster's Thesis - The Evolution of Artificial Intelligence and Expert Computer Systems in the ArmyInternational Journal of Intelligent Systems article - Artificial Intelligence in the Military: An Overview of the Capabilities, Applications, and ChallengesPreprint - Basic Research, Lethal Effects: Military AI Research Funding as EnlistmentAOAV Article - ‘Military Age Males’ in US Drone StrikesThe Conversation article - Gaza war: Israel using AI to identify human targets raising fears that innocents are being caught in the net972 article - ‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in GazaIDF press release - The IDF's Use of Data Technologies in Intelligence ProcessingLieber Institute West Point article - Israel–Hamas 2024 SymposiumVerfassungsblog article - Gaza, Artificial Intelligence, and Kill ListsRAND research report - Dr. Li Bicheng, or How China Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Social Media ManipulationThe Intercept article collection - The Drone PapersAFIT faculty publication - On Large Language Models in National Security ApplicationsNature article - Death by Metadata: The Bioinformationalisation of Life and the Transliteration of Algorithms to FleshLegislationLegiScan page on SB1047NY State Senate page on the RAISE ActCongress page on the TAKE IT DOWN ActThe GavernorFastCompany article - Big Tech may be focusing its lobbying push on the California AI safety bill’s last stop: Gavin NewsomPOLITICO article - How California politics killed a nationally important AI billNewsom's veto messageAdditional relevant lobbying documentation - [1], [2]Jacobin article - With Newsom’s Veto, Big Tech Beats DemocracyMisc. LinksFLI Open Letter on an AI pauseWikipedia article - Overton windowDaniel Smachtenburger YouTube video - An Introduction to the MetacrisisVAISU website (looks broken as of 2025.06.19)AI Impacts report - Why Did Environmentalism Become Partisan?
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    1 h et 48 min
  • Making Your Voice Heard w/ Tristan Williams & Felix de Simone

    Making Your Voice Heard w/ Tristan Williams & Felix de Simone
    May 19 2025
    I am joined by Tristan Williams and Felix de Simone to discuss their work on the potential of constituent communication, specifically in the context of AI legislation. These two worked as part of an AI Safety Camp team to understand whether or not it would be useful for more people to be sharing their experiences, concerns, and opinions with their government representative (hint, it is).Check out the blogpost on their findings, "Talking to Congress: Can constituents contacting their legislator influence policy?" and the tool they created!(01:53) - Introductions (04:04) - Starting the project (13:30) - Project overview (16:36) - Understanding constituent communication (28:50) - Literature review (35:52) - Phase 2 (43:26) - Creating a tool for citizen engagement (50:16) - Crafting your message (59:40) - The game of advocacy (01:15:19) - Difficulties on the project (01:22:33) - Call to action (01:32:30) - OutroLinksLinks to all articles/papers which are mentioned throughout the episode can be found below, in order of their appearance.AI Safety CampPause AIBlueDot ImpactTIME article - There’s an AI Lobbying Frenzy in Washington. Big Tech Is DominatingCongressional Management Foundation study - Communicating with Congress: Perceptions of Citizen Advocacy on Capitol HillCongressional Management Foundation study - The Future of Citizen Engagement: Rebuilding the Democratic DialogueTristan and Felix's blogpost - Talking to Congress: Can constituents contacting their legislator influence policy?Wired article - What It Takes to Make Congress Actually ListenAmerican Journal of Polical Science article - Congressional Representation: Accountability from the Constituent’s PerspectivePolitical Behavior article - Call Your Legislator: A Field Experimental Study of the Impact of a Constituency Mobilization Campaign on Legislative VotingGuided Track websiteThe ToolHolistic AI global regulatory trackerWhite & Case global regulatory trackerSteptoe US AI legislation trackerManatt US AIxHealth legislation trackerIssue One article - Big Tech Cozies Up to New Administration After Spending Record Sums on Lobbying Last YearVerfassungsblog article - BigTech’s Efforts to Derail the AI ActMIT Technology Review article - OpenAI has upped its lobbying efforts nearly sevenfoldOpen Secrets webpage - Issue Profile: Science & TechnologyStatista data - Leading lobbying spenders in the United States in 2024Global Justice Now report - Democracy at risk in Davos: new report exposes big tech lobbying and political interferenceIpsos article - Where Americans stand on AIAP-NORC report - There Is Bipartisan Concern About the Use of AI in the 2024 ElectionsAI Action Summit report - International AI Safety ReportYouGov article - Do Americans think AI will have a positive or negative impact on society?
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    1 h et 33 min
  • INTERVIEW: Scaling Democracy w/ (Dr.) Igor Krawczuk

    INTERVIEW: Scaling Democracy w/ (Dr.) Igor Krawczuk
    Jun 3 2024
    The almost Dr. Igor Krawczuk joins me for what is the equivalent of 4 of my previous episodes. We get into all the classics: eugenics, capitalism, philosophical toads... Need I say more?If you're interested in connecting with Igor, head on over to his website, or check out placeholder for thesis (it isn't published yet).Because the full show notes have a whopping 115 additional links, I'll highlight some that I think are particularly worthwhile here:The best article you'll ever read on Open Source AIThe best article you'll ever read on emergence in MLKate Crawford's Atlas of AI (Wikipedia)On the Measure of IntelligenceThomas Piketty's Capital in the Twenty-First Century (Wikipedia)Yurii Nesterov's Introductory Lectures on Convex OptimizationChapters(02:32) - Introducing Igor (10:11) - Aside on EY, LW, EA, etc., a.k.a. lettersoup (18:30) - Igor on AI alignment (33:06) - "Open Source" in AI (41:20) - The story of infinite riches and suffering (59:11) - On AI threat models (01:09:25) - Representation in AI (01:15:00) - Hazard fishing (01:18:52) - Intelligence and eugenics (01:34:38) - Emergence (01:48:19) - Considering externalities (01:53:33) - The shape of an argument (02:01:39) - More eugenics (02:06:09) - I'm convinced, what now? (02:18:03) - AIxBio (round ??) (02:29:09) - On open release of models (02:40:28) - Data and copyright (02:44:09) - Scientific accessibility and bullshit (02:53:04) - Igor's point of view (02:57:20) - OutroLinksLinks to all articles/papers which are mentioned throughout the episode can be found below, in order of their appearance. All references, including those only mentioned in the extended version of this episode, are included.Suspicious Machines Methodology, referred to as the "Rotterdam Lighthouse Report" in the episodeLIONS Lab at EPFLThe meme that Igor referencesOn the Hardness of Learning Under SymmetriesCourse on the concept of equivariant deep learningAside on EY/EA/etc.Sources on Eliezer YudkowskiScholarly Community EncyclopediaTIME100 AIYudkowski's personal websiteEY WikipediaA Very Literary Wiki -TIME article: Pausing AI Developments Isn’t Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down documenting EY's ruminations of bombing datacenters; this comes up later in the episode but is included here because it about EY.LessWrongLW WikipediaMIRICoverage on Nick Bostrom (being a racist)The Guardian article: ‘Eugenics on steroids’: the toxic and contested legacy of Oxford’s Future of Humanity InstituteThe Guardian article: Oxford shuts down institute run by Elon Musk-backed philosopherInvestigative piece on Émile TorresOn the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big? 🦜NY Times article: We Teach A.I. Systems Everything, Including Our BiasesNY Times article: Google Researcher Says She Was Fired Over Paper Highlighting Bias in A.I.Timnit Gebru's WikipediaThe TESCREAL Bundle: Eugenics and the Promise of Utopia through Artificial General IntelligenceSources on the environmental impact of LLMsThe Environmental Impact of LLMsThe Cost of Inference: Running the ModelsEnergy and Policy Considerations for Deep Learning in NLPThe Carbon Impact of AI vs Search EnginesFilling Gaps in Trustworthy Development of AI (Igor is an author on this one)A Computational Turn in Policy Process Studies: Coevolving Network Dynamics of Policy ChangeThe Smoothed Possibility of Social Choice, an intro in social choice theory and how it overlaps with MLRelating to Dan HendrycksNatural Selection Favors AIs over Humans"One easy-to-digest source to highlight what he gets wrong [is] Social and Biopolitical Dimensions of Evolutionary Thinking" -IgorIntroduction to AI Safety, Ethics, and Society, recently published textbook"Source to the section [of this paper] that makes Dan one of my favs from that crowd." -IgorTwitter post referenced in the episode<...
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    2 h et 59 min