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I'm Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Mo Gawdat, engineer, entrepreneur, and one of the world's most prominent voices on happiness and artificial intelligence, to explore grief, love, loss, and what it really means to be okay. Mo reflects on a life of extraordinary professional success that left him clinically miserable in his twenties, the Saturday morning his five-year-old daughter held up a mirror to the person he'd become, and the years of mathematical obsession that led him to reverse-engineer happiness itself.

Mo speaks with characteristic precision and unexpected tenderness about the loss of his son Ali in 2014, the teacher who spent 21 years showing his father how to accept life as it is, and whose death became the ultimate test of everything Mo had built. He draws a profound distinction between pain and suffering, reframes grief as displaced love searching for somewhere to go, and offers a vision of death, rooted not in scripture but in quantum physics and the theory of relativity.

Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer of Google X, bestselling author of Solve for Happy, Scary Smart and Unstressable, and founder of the One Billion Happy movement. This is an episode about the algorithm underneath all of it and the losses that proved it true.

About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast — it’s a service. A space for the millions of people
navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean
Campbell.

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their

outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this
experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain -
emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words:

With Very Special Thanks to Mo Gawdat

Technical Production by Copperbeach
Social Media Ruby Fern
Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
Series Producer Camilla Morton
Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets model and entrepreneur Lottie Moss to explore what it’s like growing up in the public eye, the search for identity and validation, and finding her way back to herself. Lottie reflects on being a bubbly and confident child, her love of the spotlight and dressing-up box, the jelly shoes, and how the camera always found her, followed by the harder secondary school years which brought self-doubt, slut-shaming and the need for external validation amongst the social hierarchies of teenage girlhood.

Lottie was thrown into the spotlight, aged thirteen, at her half-sister (Kate Moss) wedding and scouted as a model. Lottie discusses feeling mismanaged and controlled by her agency, the loneliness beneath the glamour, and the moment COVID gave her space to ask whether any
of it was actually making her happy. She speaks candidly about how OnlyFans wasn’t rock bottom but led her to reclaiming creative control and an unexpected sense of community and reflects on the backlash, the media scrutiny that followed her and the point at which she checked herself into rehab for depression, and started to take back her power.

Lottie Moss is an English model and entrepreneur, from high fashion to Only Fans, from growing up in the spotlight to modelling work, building her social platforms and hosting herpodcast Dream On This is an episode that explores what recovery, taking control and growthmean to her as she build something of her own.

About I’m Fine:
“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.”

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell it’s a safe space and platform where high- performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

With Very Special Thanks to Lottie Moss
- Instagram @lottiemossxo
- YouTube @LottieMossOfficial

- Technical Production by Copperbeach
- Social Media Ruby Fern
- Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
- Series Producer Camilla Morton
- Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Former Royal Marines lawyer Martin Wade for a profound conversation about PTSD, military service, chronic pain, survival and the unexpected role art has played in rebuilding his life. In this conversation they discuss pain, compassion, responsibility; Martin reflects on the weight of serving in Afghanistan, the life-changing impact of his PTSD diagnosis, and the long, difficult path of learning to live with both physical and psychological pain, and the courage it takes to keep going when life has fallen apart. Through painting, Martin was able to express what words couldn’t, and creates works that connect to the human condition and the possibility of healing.

Martin Wade is an artist and veteran. Free from any classical training, he paints unhindered by convention and explores colour and composition on his own terms. Life's experiences brought him to the easel and his abstract works explore emotions, adversity and a survivor's instinct to recover against all the odds. The emphasis of his art is not one of gloom brought about by trauma and the hidden wounds of war but one of optimism, compassion and faith in common humanity.
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About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast — it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.”
Jean Campbell.

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell it’s a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

With Very Special Thanks to Martin Wade @martinwadeartist
https://www.instagram.com/martinwadeartist/
For more please visit: www.martinartist.com

- Technical Production by Copperbeach
- Social Media Ruby Fern
- Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
- Series Producer Camilla Morton
- Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell