In this deeply inspiring episode of *I’m An Artist, Not A Salesman*, host Luis Guzman sits down with Eddie Orengo, a name you might recognize from the ring, but a story you won’t forget once you hear it. Known to WWE fans as a sharp, dependable referee on Monday Night Raw and Smackdown, Eddie shares the full arc of his journey—from a wrestling-obsessed kid in Newark, New Jersey, to standing in the center of the ring at Madison Square Garden, calling matches for legends like AJ Styles and John Cena.
What makes this episode truly unforgettable is how raw and honest Eddie is about the grind behind the glamour. Before the lights and the live TV cameras, Eddie was setting up chairs at local indie shows, delivering oxygen tanks during the week, and sacrificing sleep to chase a dream most people told him was out of reach. It wasn’t just about making it to the WWE—it was about proving he belonged there.
Eddie walks us through:
- What it was like to meet his father for the first time ever—at a wrestling match
- His early days wrestling under the name El Bandido Jr.
- Why he pivoted from performer to referee, and how that one decision changed everything
- The phone call that changed his life and got him a tryout at the WWE Performance Center
- What it felt like debuting at Madison Square Garden alongside wrestling royalty
“I would’ve done anything to stay in this business,” Eddie shares. “Referee, cameraman, even setting up rings. If it kept me close to pro wrestling, I was in.”
The conversation dives deep into how resilience, relationships, and self-awareness helped Eddie overcome the challenges of being overlooked because of his size, typecast in the indie scene, and dealing with the physical toll of wrestling in his early years. But perhaps most moving is Eddie’s reflection on gratitude—for his mom, who raised him solo and told him to stay humble, and for his father, who gave him his first shot in the ring.
There’s also an insider’s look into the business of being a WWE referee—how matches are timed to perfection, what it’s like getting instructions mid-match from producers, and how the ref’s role is far more than just counting to three. Eddie shares what it was like to ref one of the most culturally significant matches in recent memory: Bad Bunny vs. Damian Priest in Puerto Rico. The emotion, the crowd, and the personal pride of three Boricuas in the ring is something he’ll never forget—and you’ll feel it too.
If you’re a lifelong wrestling fan, a creative grinding toward your dream, or someone looking for a jolt of motivation, this episode is for you. Eddie’s story isn’t just about wrestling—it’s about identity, legacy, and believing in yourself even when the odds say otherwise.
*Other highlights in this episode include:*
- Why John Cena gave Eddie a simple but powerful piece of career advice
- What it’s like to be around Triple H and how much the game has changed under his leadership
- Behind-the-scenes insight on the Final Boss storyline with The Rock
- The importance of staying mentally and physically ready—even when you’re not in the spotlight
- Why Eddie considers refereeing Damian Priest vs. Drew McIntyre in Scotland one of his most challenging matches
- How he balances being a public figure with staying grounded at home, thanks to his wife and family
*Final takeaway?* The dream isn’t just to make it. The dream is to keep growing, keep learning, and always leave the door open for the next kid from Newark who wants to be part of something bigger than themselves.
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