Sean is at a loud hockey rink. Robert says "um" a couple times.

Jack Han joins (2:00) the show to talk about rink coffee, his new book, how he started writing about hockey, what it's like being an NHL video coach, how limitations and constraints can be key to organic development, and how passing can be like a good handshake.

Robert and Sean (54:17) then get into how video and charts are secret best friends, ways in which NHL TV presentation can grow, and a stunning theological dissertation.

Sean educates Robert about college hockey (1:22:25), including his take on whether a certain college player will go first overall.

Rick Bowness (1:55:00) joins the show to talk about how it's cold in Buffalo, how much gas Columbus has left in the tank, how he adapts his coaching for different players, which video clips he requests for meetings, all the things he still loves about coaching, and some admirable traits of Jamie Benn and Adam Fantilli.

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