In this conversation, Leah and Kendra explore various themes surrounding self-promotion, the journey into forensic psychology, the complexities of emotional pain, and the role of technology in education. They discuss the challenges of talking about oneself, the subjective nature of experiences, and the importance of connection in overcoming pain and identity issues. The dialogue emphasizes the need for emotional intelligence and the innovative use of technology to foster connections and learning.

This first conversation explores the intersection of art and science, emphasizing the importance of resilience, self-compassion, and empathy. We discuss the VI4 Artist in Residence Program, the role of creativity in scientific communication, and the challenges posed by AI in the creative process. They highlight the importance of mentorship, connection, and compassion in a divided society, ultimately advocating a values-based approach to leadership and collaboration.