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...turns out, we had that data!
The data existed. It was sitting right there.
Someone produced it. Someone chose to publish it. Someone presented it at a conference in a hotel that cost more than the annual health budget of the district the study was about. They had only 10 minutes to do so. And then maybe the policy went in a different direction anyway. And everyone in the room suspected why. But all felt something was missing, but remained silent.
This podcast says so out loud.
...turns out, we had that data is the podcast of Health Economics, Systems and Policies (HESP), the first African-led, bilingual journal built on the premise that the continent that carries the heaviest burden of health financing failure is also the continent most capable of producing the evidence to respond to it. Each episode puts three people in the same room: a researcher who put in the work, a decision-maker who was expected to act on it - or didn't - and an editor of HESP whose job is to make sure neither of them gets away with the comfortable version of polite events. and also that they have ample time to do so.
No prepared statements. No panel-ready answers. No polite agreement to disagree.
The questions this podcast asks are the ones that don't make it into the abstract:
- Why was this research question chosen
- Who decided the other questions weren't worth asking?
- What went wrong for the evidence to point one way and the policy to go another?
- Are researchers producing knowledge for the systems that need it - or for the journals, the funders, and the careers that reward a different kind of output?
This is not a show about publishing papers. It is about what evidence costs to produce in Africa, who controls which questions get asked, and what happens -or doesn't - once that evidence finally enters the world.
From health financing reform to structural adjustment's long shadow, from cost-effectiveness thresholds to the politics of what gets counted, the conversations go where most academic discourse and policy decisions can't reach.
Grounded in African realities. Spoken in English and French. Uncomfortable by design.
Episodes run 45 to 60 minutes. Unscripted. Because if the conversation needs a script, then you probably are in the wrong conversation and need to change channel.
If the data was never the problem, then what is the issue?
Join us to engage further!
The HESP Editorial team
2026 The Health Economics, Systems and Policies (HESP) journal-
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