Greg Morris sits down with Chris Watler, Co-Chair of the New York City Employment and Training Coalition Board and Executive Vice President of the Center for Employment Opportunities (CEO), for a wide-ranging conversation about what it takes to build a safer, fairer New York—especially for New Yorkers returning from incarceration.

Watler traces his path from growing up in Crown Heights to national nonprofit leadership, sharing the lessons that shaped his commitment to service, community, and economic mobility. The discussion digs into why mass incarceration is a policy failure—not a behavior problem—and what real “public safety” looks like when communities have the resources to thrive.'

They explore CEO’s evidence-based reentry model, the importance of immediate income and wraparound supports, and how employment, training, and career pathways can reduce recidivism and expand opportunity. Watler also highlights the Reentry Assistance Bill and makes the case for direct financial support at release as a smarter, more humane investment than continued reliance on incarceration.

The conversation closes with a look at how city government can better partner with workforce organizations in moments of crisis—from major storms to pandemics—and a reflection on what it would mean to expand the supports that keep families and neighborhoods stable.

Produced by: Manhattan Neighborhood Network

Published by: New York City Employment and Training Coalition

Topics: workforce development; reentry and justice reform; mass incarceration; recidivism reduction; employment and economic mobility; transitional jobs; wraparound supports; Reentry Assistance Bill; community-based public safety; nonprofit–government coordination; NYC affordability and inequality.