Mike Rhyner welcomes a new voice into the Sunset Lounge universe — and it’s one that knows more about dirt than just about anyone alive.

Howard Garrett, better known as the Dirt Doctor, joins the show to talk about his transition from decades of terrestrial radio into the podcast world, and the unlikely path that led him there. What starts as a conversation about gardening quickly turns into a deeper discussion about health, industry resistance, bad science, and why doing things the “normal” way doesn’t always mean doing them the right way.

Howard explains how his entire career changed the moment he realized he didn’t want toxic chemicals anywhere near his young daughter — a decision that pushed him toward organic gardening long before it was fashionable. He breaks down why synthetic fertilizers damage soil over time, how organic methods actually save money, and why healthier soil leads to fewer pest problems instead of more.

Along the way, Howard shares stories of pushback from the landscaping industry, getting canceled for challenging the status quo, and why no university in America teaches the organic approach he’s spent decades perfecting. From fire ant control using dry molasses to curing tree problems others say can’t be fixed, the Dirt Doctor makes a strong case for doing things naturally — and smarter.

It’s practical, eye-opening, and occasionally rebellious… just the way Mike likes it.

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Chapters

00:00:00 – Lightning strikes, chaos, and a proper Your Dark Companion return 00:01:58 – Mike introduces the Dirt Doctor 00:02:50 – Leaving terrestrial radio and entering the podcast world 00:03:19 – Howard’s background: Marines, landscaping, and Camp Lejeune 00:05:10 – From golf courses to organic advocacy 00:05:40 – The moment everything changed: protecting his daughter 00:06:10 – What “organic” really means (and what to stop doing) 00:06:45 – Why organic works better — including financially 00:07:08 – The myth that organic costs more 00:07:56 – Why no universities teach the organic approach 00:08:21 – Teaching outside the system: classes, radio, podcasts 00:09:19 – Tree care, oak wilt, and solving “unsolvable” problems 00:09:53 – Learning the organic method from early pioneers 00:10:53 – Industry backlash and being labeled a renegade 00:12:21 – Why professionals stick with broken systems 00:12:41 – Cutting costs by improving soil health 00:13:30 – Saving water and money with organic landscapes 00:14:28 – Why soil never “wears out” organically 00:15:09 – Fire ants, dry molasses, and accidental breakthroughs 00:16:57 – When skeptics become believers 00:17:33 – Natural pest control that actually works 00:18:17 – Consulting, contractors, and organic holdouts 00:19:36 – Transitioning from radio to podcasting 00:20:10 – Learning a new medium and reaching new audiences 00:21:18 – Helping people live healthier through better dirt 00:22:25 – Final thoughts and welcoming the Dirt Doctor aboard

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