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Humans in the Loop

Humans in the Loop

De : Seb Agertoft
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A podcast for thoughtful technologists. Seb Agertoft - Coach to tech company founders and leadership teams - interviews founders, technologists, artists, investors, thought leaders and policymakers wrestling with the tough questions at the forefront of emergent tech like AI, quantum computing, renewable energy, web3, blockchain, robotics and autonomous vehicles. Not just can we build it, but how to build tech with human interests at heart.Seb Agertoft
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  • Mike Masnick on the decentralised internet
    Feb 24 2026

    Mike Masnick wrote the paper that helped inspire Bluesky and now he sits on the Bluesky board.A long-time advocate of decentralised tech, Mike's paper 'Protocols not platforms' outlined how a more open protocol-based system to social media would create a healthier social media ecosystem in which people were free to vote with their feet (or their mouse) and go elsewhere, without losing access to the community they'd built.In this wide ranging conversation, Mike and I discuss the future of social media, the internet's trajectory from an open to a closed ecosystem, whether decentralisation can be a winning strategy in a capitalist economy, and much more.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Mike Masnick and Tech Perspectives05:53 The Evolution of TechDirt and Innovation11:03 Understanding Free Speech in the Digital Age15:53 Protocols vs. Platforms: A New Approach to Free Speech20:50 The Shift from Protocol-Centric to Platform-Centric Internet28:48 The Evolution of Patents and Competition31:10 Understanding the Problems with Big Tech32:23 Moving Towards Decentralization33:23 The Role of Decentralized Protocols35:11 Generative AI: Empowerment vs. Control37:55 Building Personalized Tools for Empowerment41:35 Decentralization in Social Media: Blue Sky Explained49:12 The Future of Decentralized Systems53:04 Mainstream Adoption of Decentralized TechnologiesLinksProtocols not platformsBlueskyGet in touchInstagram⁠https://www.theuncommonfounder.com

    seb@theuncommonfounder.com⁠

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    56 min
  • Alex Komoroske on the hacker ethic and pro-social tech
    Feb 3 2026

    Alex Komoroske is one of the smartest voices out there talking about better forms of technology right now.

    He spent a long chapter of his career at the likes of Google and Stripe and is now the Founder and CEO of Common Tools, working on enabling decentralised technology.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Alex Komoroske's Perspective on Tech03:39 The Hacker Ethic and Disillusionment in Tech06:31 The Slide into Cynicism: A Cultural Shift in Tech09:12 Emergence and Coordination Complexity in Organizations11:40 Slime Molds: A Metaphor for Organizational Dynamics14:24 The Future of Incumbent Organizations17:24 The Same Origin Policy and Its Consequences20:06 Resonance vs. Hollowness in Technology22:50 The Resonant Computing Manifesto25:09 The Role of LLMs in Shaping the Future32:07 Unlocking the Power of LLMs35:40 The Role of Privacy in Resonant Computing37:09 Organizational Structures for Resonance42:24 The Importance of a Resonant Privacy Model46:38 Emergence and Resonance in Technology53:55 A Vision for the Future of Technology


    Links:

    Resonant computing manifesto

    Alex’s website

    Slime molds deck

    Alex’s ‘bits and bobs’ document

    The Same Origin Paradigm


    Get in touchInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/humansinthelooppodEmail: seb@theuncommonfounder.comPersonal website: https://www.theuncommonfounder.com

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    1 h
  • Kevin Kelly on Flounder Mode and Optimism
    Jan 13 2026

    How to describe Kevin Kelly?

    • Founder of Wired Magazine.
    • Writer of industry defining essays like '1000 true fans' - https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/
    • Co-chair of The Long Now Foundation encouraging people to think on civilisational timescales
    • Passionate traveller and photographer whose travelled remote parts of Asia for the last 50 years - https://kevin2kelly.myshopify.com/products/colors-of-asia-a-visual-journey
    • The subject of the brilliant term, coined by Brie Wolfson - Flounder Mode https://joincolossus.com/article/flounder-mode/
    • And a dream podcast guest


    Kevin is known for many things, not least his optimism, but Kevin's flavour of optimism is what we calls 'protopian not utopian' - an acknowledgement that new technology creates major new problems but that over time we find ways to solve them


    Chapters

    00:00 The Hollywood Approach to Career Paths

    05:20 Pursuing Interesting Projects

    07:46 Influence and Unique Contributions

    10:38 Radical Optimism Explained

    13:38 The Choice of Optimism

    16:28 The Reality of Progress

    19:05 Wrestling with Counter Narratives

    21:54 Building Better Technology

    28:18 Navigating Technology's Strengths and Weaknesses

    30:54 The Ethics of Technology Creation

    33:14 The Role of Corporations in Technology

    36:04 The Necessity of Innovation in Addressing Problems

    42:14 Long-Term Thinking and the Long Now Foundation

    47:55 Envisioning a Desirable Future

    53:11 Celebrating Cultural Heritage Through Photography


    Get in touch

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humansinthelooppod

    Email: seb@theuncommonfounder.com

    Personal website: https://www.theuncommonfounder.com

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    55 min
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