Are you a high achiever drifting toward burnout?

In this Looking Back episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange and Julie K. Rhodes explore how Sabbath, humility, and God’s unconditional love create sustainable leadership. If you’re driven, responsible, and carrying significant pressure, this conversation may completely change how you think about success.

Chronic Grace: Prayers, Saints, and Thorns That Stay by Julie K. Rhodes

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Julie shares how grief and chronic illness reshaped her definition of achievement—and why overachievers often drift into exhaustion when identity is tied to outcomes. This episode is about becoming the right person, not just getting the right results.

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts

Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/

Julie K. Rhodes Resources

Website: https://www.juliekrhodes.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/juliekrhodes/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-rhodes-ba4aab300/

Instagram: @juliekrhodes

Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/juliekrhodes

Other Resources Mentioned

Chronic Grace: Prayers, Saints, and Thorns That Stay (Julie K. Rhodes): https://amzn.to/4azudiK

Practicing the Way (John Mark Comer): https://amzn.to/4djmoOC

So Much More Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3EV8RsLUlSeyfZvONYoRFc

Chapters

00:00 - Why this episode matters (Looking Back)

01:05 - A sacred pause after loss

04:02 - What “success” really looks like

06:52 - Legacy vs metrics and milestones

10:45 - The hidden motive behind striving

12:49 - Why high achievers burn out

14:29 - Unconditional love as a practice

20:42 - Finding a spiritual rhythm that fits

22:36 - Anxiety, control, and humility

27:35 - Pressure, responsibility, and payroll reality

30:40 - Trusting providence when plans shift

34:12 - Sabbath: a hard break from striving

37:13 - The drift back to

What happens when leadership becomes performance instead of presence?

In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange sits down with leadership strategist and author Kristina Holle to explore how survival patterns, identity, and burnout quietly shape the way leaders show up.

Kristina unpacks the shift from performative leadership to embodied authenticity—and why wholeness, self-regulation, and alignment are becoming essential in today’s fast-moving world.

This conversation is for leaders ready to stop surviving and start leading from who they truly are.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh

Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b

YouTube Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts

Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/

Website: https://www.holleconsulting.com

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/kristinaholle

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristinahollereal

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kristinamholle

Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6tnlbYvYQrz86e2vX4VHJt

The Authentic You: Unleash Your Leadership Potential

https://www.amazon.ca/Authentic-You-Unleash-Leadership-Potential-ebook/dp/B091FX4W1C

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What if the biggest threat to your leadership isn’t your strategy — but your need for control? In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange talks with Randy Griffin, Chair at C12 North Texas, about the two “operating systems” leaders live from: fear and faith. They unpack why high-achieving Christian leaders can get results while quietly losing margin, peace, and joy — and how Jesus invites us into partnership, surrender, and formation instead of performance. If you’ve been trying to “optimize” your way to peace, this conversation will reframe what healthy, kingdom-minded leadership actually looks like.

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh

Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts

Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/

Website: https://c12northtexas.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/texasfaith/

00:00 - The question you’re avoiding

00:45 - Welcome & Randy’s background

02:00 - Leaders are tired: no margin in soul

03:30 - “Optimize more” vs true rest

04:35 - Matthew 11: Jesus’ yoke & rest

07:30 - Two operating systems: fear vs faith

09:45 - Holy productivity vs burnout

12:00 - Loving work without losing your soul

14:15 - Moving from 1.0 to a new OS

17:25 - Recovery & control as addiction

20:10 - “Just enough” is the lie

22:00 - People are God’s highest value

27:15 - Leadership as formation

31:10 - Why success can block surrender

35:45 - 24-hour step: name it & share it

40:15 - How to connect with Randy

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