Most leaders say “people first,” but few build the systems to actually live it. In this episode, Kenny Lange sits down with Janelle Miller Moravek, Executive Director of Youth & Family Counseling, to unpack what it really looks like to care for your team so they can deliver great work—especially in high-demand, high-burnout environments.

Janelle shares why middle management is the “secret sauce,” how they redesigned workload expectations, and what she’s learning about safety, rest, and sustainability as the pace of change accelerates. If you’re leading a business or nonprofit and want a healthier culture without losing performance, this conversation will give you practical angles to think from.

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts

Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/

Janelle Miller Moravek Resources

Website: https://www.counselingforall.org

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelle-miller-moravek-903a815b/

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