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This episode was supposed to be about education.

It turned into a long, winding, honest conversation about growing up Southern, malls as social centers, life without air conditioning, aging bodies, faith, comedy, celebrities, grief, golf, gyms, and the strange moments that make you wonder if the universe is paying attention.

This week on Here’s What We Know, we sit down with Bryan Thomas Wetzel, author, gym owner, former TV host, lifelong entrepreneur, and a guy who somehow shares about 90 percent of my life experiences, just arranged in a slightly different order.

In This Episode:

• Small towns, big heat, and why Chick-fil-A used to only exist in malls
• Playing golf with men in their 90s who can still stripe it
• What happens when celebrities disappoint you (and when they don’t)
• Why radio people are wired differently
• Aging, fitness, and the moment your goals shift from “looking good” to “staying alive”
• Faith, doubt, near-death stories, and moments that don’t fit neat explanations
• Why kindness from strangers sometimes arrives at exactly the right time

No debates, no shouting. Just stories, curiosity, laughter, and the kind of conversation you don’t want to rush. Pull up a chair. This one wanders in the best way. Tune in now!

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Bio:

Bryan Wetzel is a seasoned entrepreneur, author, and media professional with more than 30 years of experience launching and leading companies across education, fitness, hospitality, and media. He has founded multiple successful businesses, two of which were acquired by larger enterprises.

He is the author of The Real Problems Destroying Education (2024), inspired by his work with school administrators and district leaders while leading Skubes, an education startup recognized by Dig South as a top education company prior to its acquisition in 2017. His most recent book, A Path to Faith Through Science and Common Sense (2025), explores belief, reason, and lived experience.

Bryan currently owns and operates The Local Gym in Georgia and Texas and previously founded Cedarcrest Grill, which was sold in 2022. Earlier in his career, he built and ran a production company for over two decades, working in television, film, and live events, including projects tied to the 1996 Olympic Games. His work has earned 16 national and international awards.

He now writes on Substack and continues exploring entrepreneurship, faith, health, and creativity through writing and conversation.

Website: https://www.bryanthomaswetzel.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/onefourtwo/

Substack: https://bryanwetzel.substack.com/

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Why do some stories stay with us forever, while others lose their magic?

This week on Here’s What We Know, we welcome screenwriter, author, and game show researcher Steve Abramson for a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about storytelling, Hollywood, game shows, and the stories that shape who we are.

Steve shares how a childhood viewing of Star Wars sparked a lifelong love of movies, what it is really like working behind the scenes in television and game shows, and why modern franchises often struggle to recapture the joy and clarity that once made them timeless. We also explore why villains are often more compelling than heroes, how pressure changes performance, and what our favorite stories reveal about our hopes, fears, and curiosity.

This is an honest, curious conversation about creativity, culture, and the simple power of a good story told well. If you love movies, game shows, pop culture, or thoughtful conversations that connect the dots between entertainment and real life, this episode is for you.

In This Episode:

• Why stories matter
• How Star Wars sparked a love for storytelling
• Learning screenwriting before the internet
• Sending a screenplay to Hollywood at 15
• Why movie franchises lose their way
• What Star Wars got right and where it went wrong
• Why villains are more interesting than heroes
• The reality of writing for television today
• Behind the scenes of game shows
• Why game shows are harder than they look
• Knowing the answer vs performing under pressure
• How pressure changes creativity
• Why the stories we consume shape us
• Passing curiosity to the next generation
• Why great stories still matter

This episode is sponsored by:

Reed Animal Hospital

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Bio:

Steve Abramson is a screenwriter, author, and television writer whose creative journey began at fifteen when he wrote his first screenplay and even managed to get someone at Amblin Entertainment to read it. After formally studying Film and Television at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, Steve broke into professional television writing with credits including In a Heartbeat for the Disney Channel, story pitching for Star Trek, and writing for Survivor: Cook Islands. His career spans television pilots, network pitching, and extensive work on game shows, including Temptation, Boom, Million Second Quiz, and Funny You Should Ask. Alongside years in post production, Steve continues to create across media through projects like KnowItAllJoe.com and his children’s book The Bear in the Chair.

Website: https://steveabramson.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowitalljoe1977/

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What happens when the machines get smarter and we have to get wiser?

This week on Here’s What We Know, we welcome Jeff Burningham, author of The Last Book Written by a Human. We talk about AI, fear, failure, and the power of being present.

Jeff shares how building companies, losing a run for governor, and slowing way down changed how he sees success and identity. This is a human conversation about wisdom, humility, and staying grounded while everything around us speeds up.

If you are curious about AI but even more curious about what it means to be human, this episode is for you.

In This Episode:

• Artificial intelligence and its impact on human identity
• What The Last Book Written by a Human is really about
• Why wisdom matters more than intelligence in the AI age
• Fear, uncertainty, and how people are responding to rapid technological change
• Doing versus being and how success can disconnect us from ourselves
• Public failure and the lessons learned from losing a gubernatorial race
• Leadership, ego, and redefining what success actually means
• Presence, attention, and slowing down in everyday life
• What makes human connection irreplaceable
• How to stay grounded as technology continues to advance
  
  

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Mike Counsil Plumbing & Rooter (Use code “Gary” to get $89 off any service!)

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Bio:

Jeff has started, run or been an early investor in over 15 companies in tech & real estate valued at over a billion dollars, lost a challenging race for Governor amidst COVID in his home state, is an adjunct professor of entrepreneurship, served on 20+ boards, lived in the Middle East & traveled to over 60 countries while earning two degrees.

He is a Founder and Chairman of Peak Capital Partners, a $5B+ real estate investment firm located in Provo, UT, which was named the 2nd fastest growing company in Utah and one of the 500 fastest privately held companies in the United States by Inc. Magazine. Jeff also launched Peak Ventures, which has three early-stage funds that back the brightest and most inspiring entrepreneurs in Utah and throughout the US. In 2014, Jeff was named The Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year for the Mountain West Region.

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffburningham/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeff.burningham.252321/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-burningham-15a01a7b/

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