This week, Kathy is joined by one of her all-time favorite authors, Sy Montgomery. Sy is the international bestselling author of The Good Good Pig, The Soul of an Octopus, and her most recent release The Hawk’s Way. In their joyful conversation, Kathy and Sy talk about:

• Sy’s childhood growing up with animal friends and how these interspecies relationships influenced her professional career
• Why Sy is so optimistic about “being alive” in this tumultuous time 
• The importance of seeing all animals as equals, rather than “underlings” or “babies”
• How loving hawks without expecting any affection in return was “liberating” to Sy
• Nancy Cowan, the master falconer who taught Sy and influenced her new book The Hawk’s Way
• Christopher Hogwood, the 750 pound star of her bestselling book, who changed her life by teaching her that family doesn’t have to include those of the same genetics or species

Sy’s books are available wherever you buy books - but she hopes you’ll consider purchasing from a local bookstore. Her favorite is The Toadstool Bookshop.

Connect with Kathy Stevens:

• Facebook: Kathy Stevens, Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• Twitter: @CASanctuary
• Book: Where the Blind Horse Sings
• Website: CASanctuary.org
• Instagram: @catskill_animal_sanctuary
• YouTube: Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• TikTok: @CASanctuary

In this special episode of Herd Around the Barn, Kathy is joined by her podcast producer, Clare, to talk about some recent news surrounding the animals at Catskill Animal Sanctuary. In their conversation, they discuss:

• How CAS protected their rescued birds from avian influenza through building innovative "birdios"
• Buddy III’s passing at the age of 35 and how his friend, Buddy IV, is coping with his loss
• How Kathy is staying optimistic about the future, thanks to the all star team at CAS
• The upcoming Goat Games virtual fundraiser, which was recently featured in The L.A. Times
• Why fundraising is so vital for sanctuaries right now due to inflation and Covid-19 related financial issues

If you're interested in signing up for The Goat Games, register as an athlete here.

To attend a Break All the Rules Tour with Kathy, buy your tickets here.

Connect with Kathy Stevens:

• Facebook: Kathy Stevens, Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• Twitter: @CASanctuary
• Book: Where the Blind Horse Sings
• Website: CASanctuary.org
• Instagram: @catskill_animal_sanctuary
• YouTube: Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• TikTok: @CASanctuary

Disclaimer: This conversation contains graphic depictions of cruelty toward chickens.

This week, Kathy is joined by Harvard Law graduate and founder of the non-profit Legal Impact for Chickens, Alene Anello. In their lively conversation, the two discuss:

• Alene’s relationship with her pet cockatiel, Conrad, who changed her view of animals forever
• How working at PETA and the Animal Legal Defense Fund made Alene want to work for animal rights “forever”
• LIC’s lawsuit against Costco, citing animal welfare law violations, following a gruesome Mercy for Animals undercover investigation
• The horrific ways that chickens suffer in production plants and why Costco’s treatment of chickens demands legal action
• Kathy compares Alene’s work to the Nonhuman Rights Project’s work to represent animals in a court of law
• Alene teases some exciting new projects for her team at LIC

To support Legal Impact for Chickens, follow them on social media:

• Facebook
• Instagram
• Twitter
• LinkedIn

Connect with Kathy Stevens:

• Facebook: Kathy Stevens, Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• Twitter: @CASanctuary
• Book: Where the Blind Horse Sings
• Website: CASanctuary.org
• Instagram: @catskill_animal_sanctuary
• YouTube: Catskill Animal Sanctuary
• TikTok: @CASanctuary