In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky and Tessa sit down for a deeply personal and honest conversation about abortion, motherhood, and the complexity of choice.

What begins as a reflection on a recent guest conversation opens into something much more intimate—Tessa shares her own experience with pregnancy loss and abortion, and the emotional, physical, and psychological realities that followed.

Together, they explore what it means to make decisions in moments of uncertainty, the weight of grief, and the anger that can arise when choice is taken away. This conversation moves between the deeply personal and the collective, touching on systems, language, and the importance of compassion in moments that are anything but simple.

At its core, this episode is about autonomy, healing, and the right to navigate our own lives and bodies with dignity.

Together, we explore:
- The lived experience of abortion and pregnancy loss
- Grief, anger, and the emotional aftermath of difficult decisions
- What it means to make a choice in moments of uncertainty
- The impact of language and systems on personal experience
- Why autonomy matters in both motherhood and identity
- How we hold space for ourselves and others through complex experiences

Resources mentioned in this episode:
https://utabortionfund.org

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This conversation reflects personal experiences and perspectives. Topics discussed may be sensitive for some listeners. We encourage you to take care of yourself while listening and to seek support if needed.

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In this episode of Heart + Head Work, we sit down with Ali, a journalist and community voice deeply embedded in the flow of information, culture, and change.

Together, we explore what it means to stay engaged in a world that feels overwhelming—how to care deeply without burning out, and how to move from reactive outrage into something more grounded, sustained, and meaningful.

Ali offers a powerful reframe: the difference between anger and outrage—and why one may be essential for long-term change, while the other keeps us stuck in cycles of reaction.

This conversation moves from the personal to the collective, touching on media, responsibility, and the deeper systems shaping our lives. At the center of it all is a question many of us are quietly holding:

How do we stay in the work—without losing ourselves?

Together, we unpack:
- The difference between anger and outrage—and why it matters
- How outrage cycles can exhaust and distract us
- What it means to cultivate sustainable emotional engagement
- The idea that our “social contract” may be breaking down
- Media consumption, information overload, and staying informed without burnout
- Finding your role in the midst of complex societal issues
- Why long-term change requires steadiness, not spikes
- How community care and small actions still matter

Resources mentioned in this episode
Utah Abortion Fund
A community-based organization providing financial support and access to abortion care in Utah.

Hotline + support access:
https://utabortionfund.org/

You can also support their work through monthly or one-time donations, helping ensure continued access to care for those who need it.

Find Ali Vallarta at https://saltlake.citycast.fm/

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In this episode of Heart + Head Work, we sit down with Blake Spalding and Jen Castle, executive chefs and founders of the iconic Hell’s Backbone Grill in Boulder, Utah.

For more than 25 years, Blake and Jen have built far more than a restaurant—they’ve built a community rooted in hospitality, advocacy, and a deep commitment to the land and people around them. Their work has become a powerful example of how business can be used as a platform for values, courage, and collective care.

What began as a shared love of food and partnership grew into a restaurant that feeds both the body and the spirit. Along the way, Blake and Jen have used their voices to advocate for environmental protection, community well-being, and the idea that success isn’t measured by profit alone.

In this conversation, they share stories of building a values-driven business, navigating activism as business owners, and redefining what it means to lead with integrity in a complicated world.

Together, we unpack:

- The story behind Hell’s Backbone Grill and how Blake and Jen built their partnership
- Using business as a platform for advocacy and environmental protection
- The courage it takes to use your voice—even when it’s uncomfortable
- Navigating criticism, community pressure, and standing by your values
- How food and hospitality can become a space for connection and healing
- Redefining success beyond money, status, or traditional metrics
- Why small businesses can be powerful centers of culture and change

This episode is thoughtful, bold, and deeply human—an exploration of what happens when people choose to lead with integrity, speak up for what matters, and build something that nourishes far beyond the plate.

Where to find Hell’s Backbone Grill:

Hell’s Backbone Grill
https://www.hellsbackbonegrill.com

Follow Blake & Jen
Instagram: @hellsbackbonegrill

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