Épisodes

  • Refuge From The Flood
    Sep 28 2025

    In this episode Sascha and I talk about the concept of refugia - protected spaces creatures can survive during periods of destructive havoc - the importance of diversity and how we might tend each other during times of flood.

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    46 min
  • Elk's Club Santa
    Sep 9 2025

    Like a sack full of gifts proffered by a stranger sitting on a folding chair at a club you don't quite understand, this episode is a grab bag of random things you may or may not need or want offered without rhyme or reason.

    There's dreams about death, poop on a bed, mammograms, top-less fort building and, as always, Sascha's and my deep appreciation for our friendship. If you get something you don't like, you can always re-gift it. We won't mind one bit.

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    53 min
  • Play as Preparation
    Aug 24 2025

    In this episode I talk with Chelsea Biagioli, host of Talk To The hand - Exploring Grief with Puppets, about how she incorporates play into her grief practice.

    We share stories of childhood play - potions, spells, and waiting for the make-believe world to come into focus - and how our play changed as we grew up. We wonder about the value of spending time in imaginary worlds, what it prepares us for, what we lose when we think of it as frivolous and how colonial capitalism benefits from a world that leaves make believe behind. We decide to stay devoted to play and to invite as many beings as we can into our fort.

    Want to join us? Want to come out and play?

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    49 min
  • Potion Mage Potion
    Jul 21 2025

    In this episode Sascha and I explore what it's like to interact with reality mediated by different kinds of brains.

    We realized that one good way to describe our current experience is this: Sascha is a potion mage and I am a potion. This feels just right to me. I revel in her jars and shelves, feel grateful for my tremendous luck this time around and move off in the world more self aware and oriented.

    Along the way we discuss lions and panthers, spiders and iguanas, orb creatures, horses and Melon bank.

    We hope you find some expansiveness in this romp through a few of the endless ways to be consciously incarnate.

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    1 h et 2 min
  • Play is Serious Work
    Jun 15 2025

    In this episode Laura and I talk about the importance of play and a reminder that everything ends anyway, so perhaps let's open ourselves up to play and creation.

    We talk about the beautiful humming that can arise with the serious work that is play. We talk about insights gained from playing with Kate Drummond of The Energetic Heart, The Little Feminist Farm in Georgia, and Working Class Acupuncture in Portland, among others.

    We play in real time with ideas about silent long-houses, sandwiches, meet ups for future fictive kin, and hammock groves.


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    42 min
  • Vigilance - Pulled Apart and Considered
    May 27 2025

    In this episode Sascha and I look at vigils, vigilance and hyper-vigilance. We consider how each state shows up in our lives and how they interact with each other. We offer personal stories and learn a little more about each other.

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    40 min
  • Vigilance; A Loose, Friendly Wander Through Its Fields & Flood Plains
    May 16 2025

    In this episode Sascha and I throw structure to the wind and invite you into friendship chatting about vigilance and loss.

    We discuss: outrage at day spas, prairie dogs, non-aquatic anemones, aikido and how it feels when we open the door to our pain and fear, and try to move and roll with it.

    Maybe this structure demonstrates one of the antidotes for hyper-vigilance: what comes when we feel deeply safe and therefore free to follow each other down whichever paths open up as far as they allow, then turn off or circle back and end up somewhere, though nowhere we intended.

    In the end we both like what we've found along the path and how our feet and hearts feel from the wandering. We hope you'll come along and maybe see sometime worth picking up along the way.

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    48 min
  • Feelings About (and In) Forts
    Apr 17 2025

    In this episode Laura and I talk about feelings and forts. We talk about actual forts we constructed in childhood and what they meant to us and how we felt inside. We also talk about what it is to create safe spaces, our own worlds, and even our own realities in which to live.


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    42 min