Pennsylvania.

That’s it. That’s the episode.

John sits with his younger brother Gabe, college basketball player, future politician, and certified Pennsylvanian, for a conversation about Pennsylvania culture, politics, Gettysburg, Hershey, sports, and why this state feels like several completely different states stitched together into one beautiful landscape.

Featuring:

- Civil War

- Energy drinks

- Chocolate

- Basketball

- Amish country

- Convenience stores

More about my guest below:

gabeforpa.com

John gets on the mic and lets it go where it goes.

This one leans more into phones, how we think, and where our minds go when we slow down a little. No script just talking it out.

John talks and you keep listening. This one runs from the dark side of the moon to the Oval Office to the Wild West, he makes it make sense. No script, just a natural flow. Audio’s a little rough in the beginning but it clears up—stick with it.