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What if pain relief, faster recovery, and better sleep were a matter of getting the right light to the right place with the right dose? We sit down with Tom Kerber, engineer-turned-inventor and founder of SunPowerLED, alongside Dr. Hayman Buwan, physician and medical advisor, are bringing together deep engineering rigor and clinical insight to rethink how light-based technologies are applied in real-world health and performance settings.

We unpack photobiomodulation—the clinical side of red and near infrared light—and why some devices deliver real change while others barely scratch the surface.

Tom shares the unlikely path from blue-light dental curing to red-light cancer adjuncts and a personal back injury that proved how fast high-power LEDs can dial down pain. He explains the physics that most people miss: tissue is hungry, so you need total optical power and a large emitting area to drive photons deep into joints and brain tissue. That’s why cooling and engineering matter—air-cooled arrays that sustain output without bulky heat sinks let you get meaningful doses in minutes, not half-hour marathons.

Hayman brings the clinic: shoulder mobility restored in a six-minute session, knee and tendon pain easing quickly, dental patients healing from oral mucositis, and wounds closing faster with pre- and post-op light. On the brain side, we dig into concussion recovery, migraine interruption at aura, improved sleep quality across users, and early work in aphasia, autism, long COVID, and cognitive decline. We talk safety, where pulsing may require oversight, and why underpowered products fuel skepticism. You’ll hear about university collaborations targeting mood, opioid craving, and neuro recovery, plus why standardized protocols and dosing are the bridge from anecdotes to indications.

If you’ve wondered whether red light is hype or a true modality, this conversation gives you the science, the specs, and the stories to tell the difference. Subscribe, share with someone who needs relief today, and leave a review with the one condition you’re most curious to see treated next.

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