Many finance teams believe their ERP system is “automation.”

In reality, it often just digitizes manual work.

In this episode of Extropy on Air, Kevin Zirkle sits down with Kevin Farrell, BD&A Special Projects at Basware, to break down why ERP-centric thinking holds AP teams back and how intelligent invoice lifecycle management changes the equation.

You’ll learn:

• Why ERP systems manage transactions but don’t automate workflows
• The hidden cost of manual AP processes, late payments, and approval bottlenecks
• How organizations achieve 80%+ touchless invoice rates without re-engineering their ERP
• Real examples of recovered value, faster cycle times, and improved control
• Why successful automation requires both the right platform and the right partner

If your AP team is still chasing approvals or fixing preventable errors, this episode offers a clear path forward.

2026 is here, and the AI conversation is changing.

In the first episode of the year, Ravit Gutman and Mike Jasper unpack what organizations learned from AI adoption in 2025 and what will truly separate leaders from laggards in the year ahead.

They explore why most companies struggled to see value from early AI investments, how to rethink AI strategy beyond buzzwords, and why success is no longer about buying AI, but about using it intentionally. From measuring ROI and time-to-value, to building trust, mastering prompts, and treating AI like a teammate with a specific skill set, this episode gets practical fast.

You’ll also hear real examples of where AI is making the biggest impact today, including customer service, finance operations, healthcare, and contract management and why comfort, curiosity, and iteration matter more than perfection.

Whether you’re just getting started or refining your AI strategy for 2026, this conversation will help you think differently about how humans and AI work better together.

As 2025 comes to a close, Ravit Gutman and Mike Jasper sat down at Extropy's headquarters in Florida for an honest, forward-looking conversation about what this year taught us, and how those lessons are shaping the road ahead.

In this episode, they reflect on:

• What truly moved the needle in 2025 (and what didn’t)
• How Extropy’s approach to AI, automation, and transformation continues to evolve
• What intentional growth looks like as we head into 2026

This isn’t a highlight reel. It’s a grounded conversation about focus, people, and building systems — and cultures — that last.