Dr. Inyang Takon welcomes Dr. Evan Nadler, an internationally recognised paediatric surgeon and childhood obesity specialist, for an honest conversation that challenges many of the assumptions surrounding childhood obesity.

Drawing on more than two decades of clinical experience, Dr. Nadler explains why obesity should no longer be viewed as a personal failure or lack of willpower.

The discussion explores why many families become trapped in an exhausting cycle of diet and exercise programmes that produce limited long-term results, often leaving parents feeling blamed and children feeling ashamed.

The episode goes on to explore obesity in children with neurodevelopmental differences, who often face additional barriers to receiving appropriate treatment. Dr. Nadler explains why obesity should not be placed on the "back burner" while other conditions are managed, but instead addressed alongside them through multidisciplinary care and shared decision-making with families.

Rather than advocating a single treatment, Dr. Nadler presents a balanced discussion about lifestyle interventions, medications, and bariatric surgery, emphasising that the best approach depends on the individual child and should always involve informed family choice—not paternalistic medicine.

Whether you're a parent, healthcare professional, educator, or policymaker, this conversation will challenge long-held beliefs and encourage a more compassionate, evidence-based approach to supporting children living with obesity.

• Why childhood obesity is a chronic disease—not a lifestyle choice
• The genetic, biological and environmental drivers of obesity
• Why diet and exercise alone often aren't enough
• How obesity affects children with neurodevelopmental differences
• Why early intervention matters more than "waiting to see"
• How stigma in healthcare can harm children and families
• When medications and bariatric surgery may be appropriate
• Why families should be partners in treatment decisions
• The long-term health risks of delaying intervention
• How clinicians can support children without judgement

00:00 Introduction to Early Intervention Matters Podcast

02:39 The Growing Concern of Childhood Obesity

04:40 Understanding the Challenges in Treating Obesity

08:16 The Importance of Medical Intervention

11:31 The Complexity of Childhood Obesity

15:06 The Psychological Impact of Obesity on Children

17:24 Stigmatisation in Medical Settings

18:57 Defining Obesity as a Disease

22:17 The Urgency of Addressing Childhood Obesity

Evan P. Nadler MD served as Co-Director of the Children’s National Obesity Programs and Director of the Child and Adolescent Weight Loss Surgery Program at Children’s National Hospital from 2009 until 2023. He was also a tenured Associate Professor of Surgery, and Pediatrics, at The George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences and continues there as an Adjunct Associate Professor. His current pursuits include pediatric obesity treatment program development, authoring a book on obesity, and educating the public about obesity via his YouTube channel, website, and media appearances. Dr. Nadler is an international leader in the field of child and adolescent obesity, has authored multiple publications and textbook chapters on the topic of pediatric bariatric surgery, and was one of the founding members of the Childhood Obesity Committee of the American Pediatric Surgery Association.

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Dr. Inyang Takon is joined by Dr. Albert Bramante to explore the powerful connection between neurodiversity, mindset, self-esteem, emotional development, and the invisible "scripts" that shape how children see themselves and the world around them.

Together, they discuss how children begin forming beliefs about themselves before the age of eight and how those beliefs can influence confidence, behaviour, academic achievement, relationships, and even future success.

The conversation explores the concept of self-sabotage, why some children struggle despite having great potential, and how parents, educators, and caregivers can help build healthier patterns of thinking.

Dr. Bramand explains why neurodiversity should never be mistaken for a lack of intelligence and why understanding individual processing styles is essential for helping children thrive. The discussion highlights the importance of respectful communication, celebrating strengths, and creating environments where children feel valued and understood.

The episode also tackles some of today's most pressing parenting challenges, including overprotective parenting, emotional coaching, social media's impact on self-esteem, and the growing need for meaningful conversations in an increasingly digital world.

🎯 What You'll Learn

• How personal "scripts" develop during childhood
• Why self-sabotage is often rooted in early beliefs
• The connection between self-esteem and academic success
• Why neurodiversity does not equate to lower intelligence
• How parents can foster healthy confidence and resilience
• The dangers of overprotective parenting
• Why emotional intelligence is critical for lifelong success
• How social media can affect children's self-worth
• The importance of listening to children and paying attention to behavioural changes
• Why early intervention remains one of the most effective tools for positive outcomes

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity and Support
02:00 Understanding Mindset and Self-Sabotage
05:31 The Concept of Personal Scripts
13:26 Neurodiversity and Individual Processing
18:19 Self-Esteem and Its Impact
31:25 Healthy Self-Esteem and Positive Mindset
36:42 Understanding Self-Imposed Limitations
37:57 The Dangers of Overprotective Parenting
40:00 Emotional Intelligence and Coaching Children
43:07 Consequences of Emotional Neglect
45:05 Listening to Children: The Key to Understanding
49:11 The Role of Educators in Child Development
50:56 Navigating Professional Help for Children
55:05 The Impact of Social Media on Self-Esteem
59:58 Engaging in Real Conversations
01:01:10 Encouraging Children to Seek Help

👤 Guest Bio

Dr. Albert Bramante is an American talent agent, performance psychologist, mindset coach, and author. He is best known for blending psychological concepts with career advice to help creative professionals overcome mental blocks.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/albertbramante/

https://www.instagram.com/dralbramante

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Rise Above the Script: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-Above-Script-Confronting-Performing-ebook/dp/B0CW19F7WZ

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In this deeply moving episode of Early Intervention Matters, Dr. Takon speaks with Mike Gomoll, father, advocate, and founder of Joey's Song, about his family's journey through the challenges of Dravet syndrome, a rare and severe form of epilepsy.

Mike shares the emotional rollercoaster of navigating early symptoms, delayed diagnosis, treatment setbacks, and the uncertainty that so many families experience when searching for answers. He offers a candid look at the realities of caring for a child with a complex neurological condition and the profound impact it has on the entire family.

At the heart of this story is Joey—a young man whose love of music became a powerful source of connection, joy, and healing. Following Joey's passing, Mike and his family transformed their grief into purpose by creating Joey's Song, an initiative that has raised millions of dollars for epilepsy research and awareness while bringing together world-class musicians and supporters from around the world.

This episode explores the importance of accurate diagnosis, honest communication between healthcare providers and families, the evolving landscape of epilepsy treatment, and the critical role of community support. It also offers practical advice for parents and caregivers navigating rare diagnoses and highlights the importance of self-care, resilience, and advocacy.

🎯 What You'll Learn

• The early signs and diagnosis journey of Dravet syndrome
• Why rare conditions are often misdiagnosed and misunderstood
• The impact of treatment decisions on children with epilepsy
• How music became a powerful tool for connection and healing
• The importance of honest communication between families and healthcare providers
• Practical advice for navigating life-changing diagnoses
• How community support can transform a family's experience
• The importance of caregiver mental health and self-care
• How advocacy and fundraising can drive meaningful change
• The evolving landscape of epilepsy research and treatment

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction: Mike Gomoll's Story and Family Background
01:31 The Family's Journey from Initial Diagnosis to Advocacy
04:36 Challenges of Navigating Uncertainty Without Diagnosis
07:15 The Impact of Medication and Treatment Missteps
10:23 Understanding Dravet Syndrome and Genetic Aspects
15:07 Joey's Love for Music and His Unique Way of Connecting
19:43 The Passing of Joey and the Family's Grief Process
24:39 Creating Joey's Song to Raise Awareness and Funds
28:23 The Growth of Joey's Musical Legacy and Fundraising Success
30:57 Connecting Through Music and Its Healing Power
35:40 Advice for Families Receiving Devastating Diagnoses
36:32 Supporting Caregivers' Mental Health and Self-Care
40:46 Communicating Effectively with Families About Diagnosis
43:06 The Importance of Community, Family Resilience, and Advocacy
47:22 The Ongoing Legacy of Joey and the Impact of Music in Fundraising

👤 Guest Bio

Mike Gomoll

Mike worked for IBM in several management roles before retiring in 2017. He and his family started Joey’s Song after their 4-year-old son Joe died after a lifelong battle with Dravet Syndrome. Joey’s Song hosts a series of music events to raise funds for cutting-edge research programs, with the hope of improving treatments and possibly finding true cures for those suffering. Joey’s Song events are live streamed worldwide so anyone, anywhere in the world can watch and enjoy.

Mike lives in Sun Prairie, WI, with his wife, Nory, and their two adult children - Julia (26) and Sam (24), living near them.

📚 Resources & Links

https://www.joeyssong.org

https://www.instagram.com/joeyssong

https://www.facebook.com/joeyssong

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Marc shares the reality of living with undiagnosed ADHD, the impact it had on his confidence, relationships, and daily life, and how receiving a diagnosis helped him make sense of years of frustration and self-doubt. He speaks candidly about reaching a breaking point, the importance of seeking support, and the transformative role that therapy, vulnerability, and self-awareness played in his recovery.

The conversation also explores the unique challenges surrounding mental health within the Black community, where stigma, cultural expectations, and societal pressures can often make it difficult for individuals—particularly Black men—to seek help or openly discuss their struggles.

Marc's story is one of resilience, growth, and hope. From confronting body image issues and embarking on a remarkable weight loss journey to learning how ADHD influences every aspect of life, he offers valuable insights for anyone navigating mental health challenges, parenting neurodivergent children, or seeking greater understanding of themselves and others.

This episode reminds us that healing begins with honest conversations and that vulnerability is not weakness—it is strength.

Whether you're living with ADHD, supporting a loved one, or simply interested in mental health awareness, this conversation offers practical wisdom, encouragement, and a powerful reminder that no one has to struggle alone.

🎯 What You'll Learn

• How undiagnosed ADHD can affect self-esteem, relationships, and daily life
• Why receiving a diagnosis can be life-changing
• The connection between mental health and physical health
• How therapy can support healing and personal growth
• The importance of vulnerability and emotional honesty
• Why mental health stigma remains a challenge in the Black community
• How mindfulness supports both mental and physical wellbeing
• Lessons learned through weight loss, resilience, and self-discovery
• How understanding ADHD can improve parenting and relationships

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Early Intervention Matters Podcast
01:52 Mark's Journey: From Athlete to Advocate
03:27 Struggles with Mental Health and Body Image
06:14 The Turning Point: Seeking Help
09:36 Understanding ADHD: A Personal Perspective
22:37 Breaking Stigmas in the Black Community
26:24 The Human Experience of Black Men
29:40 Therapy: The Journey to Vulnerability
34:25 Navigating Relationships and Emotional Healing
37:26 The Weight of Change: A Personal Transformation
43:13 Mindfulness in Health: The Connection Between Body and Mind
46:01 Parenting with Empathy: A New Approach
46:18 Outro

👤 Guest Bio

Marc Paisant is a speaker, advocate, podcaster, and mental health awareness champion dedicated to helping people navigate the challenges of ADHD, emotional wellbeing, and personal growth. Through sharing his own experiences with mental health struggles, ADHD diagnosis, and significant lifestyle transformation, Marc has become a powerful voice for vulnerability, resilience, and self-understanding. His work focuses on breaking stigma, encouraging open conversations about mental health, and helping others recognise that seeking support is a sign of strength rather than weakness. Marc is particularly passionate about increasing awareness within underrepresented communities and creating spaces where honest conversations about mental health can thrive.

Marc Paisant works a normal 9-5 during the day, but afterwards he is a youth & high school soccer coach, a private trainer, and the creator/host of the Relatively Normal podcast. In his show, he shares his experiences with ADHD, anxiety and depression. He shows that no one is alone and there is always someone willing to listen and assist when it comes to coping and managing all kinds of stress. He is an advocate for therapy and counseling and talks about his years of therapy that he has used to manage his mental health.

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In this episode of Early Intervention Matters, Dr. Inyang Takon speaks with Onyi A. Udoji, child development specialist, neurodivergent learning practitioner, consultant, educator, advocate, and Director of The Chelis Group, about the realities of neurodiversity in Nigeria and the urgent need for greater awareness, inclusion, and early intervention.
Drawing on both personal experience and professional expertise, Onyi shares her journey into advocacy and explains how gaps in the educational system inspires her to work in The Chelis Group. Together, they explore the cultural beliefs, stigma, and misconceptions that often prevent families from seeking support for neurodiverse children.

🎯 What You'll Learn

• Why early intervention can significantly improve outcomes for neurodiverse children
• The challenges surrounding neurodiversity awareness in Nigeria
• How cultural and religious beliefs can influence help-seeking behaviours
• Why teacher training is essential for supporting neurodiverse learners
• The importance of accessible assessment and intervention services
• How labels can negatively impact children's confidence and development
• The role of community support in helping families thrive
• Practical messages of hope for parents navigating a diagnosis

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Early Intervention Matters
01:55 Onyi A Udoji: A Multifaceted Educator
04:32 Establishing Chelis Group: Bridging Gaps in Education
07:49 Challenges of Neurodiversity Acceptance in Nigeria
10:36 Personal Journey: Understanding Neurodiversity
14:23 The Impact of Early Experiences on Advocacy
17:14 Stigma and Cultural Beliefs Surrounding Neurodiversity
22:07 Religious Beliefs and Their Impact on Therapy
24:09 Conclusion: The Need for Continued Advocacy
27:11 Success Stories in Neurodiversity
30:41 Messages of Hope for Parents
33:53 Community Support and Understanding
35:36 Accessibility of Assessment Centers
39:11 Changing Negative Labels
43:26 The Importance of Understanding Neurodiversity

👤 Guest Bio

Onyi A. Udoji is a child development specialist, neurodivergent learning practicioner, educator, consultant and Director of The Chelis Group, an organisation dedicated to improving educational outcomes through multiple outlets Nigeria.

📚 Resources & Links

Guest Links

Email: onyi@thechelisgroup.com

Number: 08059309834

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/onyi-a-udoji-83383855

Articles: https://neomontessorilife.com/product-tag/digital/

Online courses: https://chelisschoolconsultancy.com/all-courses/

Montessori courses: https://mmi-nigeria.com/diploma-programs/

Books: https://www.chelispublications.com/store/

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When families receive an ADHD diagnosis, many struggle to know what to do next.

In this episode, Dr. Inyang Takon is joined by ADHD coach and educator Tiara Brumberg to discuss executive functioning, emotional regulation, and practical strategies for supporting children and teens with ADHD.

Together they explore the challenges families face after diagnosis, the importance of coaching and community, and how parents can build systems that help neurodivergent children thrive.

Whether you're a parent, clinician, educator, or neurodivergent adult, you'll come away with practical insights and encouragement for the journey ahead.

What You'll Learn

• Why ADHD often creates a gap between intention and action

• How executive functioning affects daily life

• Practical ways to support teens with ADHD

• The importance of emotional regulation for both children and parents

• How coaching can help families move forward after diagnosis

• Why community and connection matter on the ADHD journey

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity and ADHD Coaching

02:15 Understanding the "Messy Middle" of ADHD

06:30 The Impact of Early Interventions

09:54 Creating Structure in Daily Routines

15:24 Navigating Post-Diagnosis Challenges

20:06 The Role of Coaching in ADHD Management

27:33 Defining Executive Functioning Skills

34:14 Challenges for Older Teenagers with ADHD

36:30 Cultural Perspectives on ADHD and Parenting

39:02 Strategies for Supporting Neurodiverse Households

43:04 Understanding Late-Diagnosed Mothers

46:01 Navigating Emotional Dysregulation in Parenting

50:07 Advice for Clinicians on ADHD Assessments

53:55 Supporting Transitions for Teens with ADHD

01:05:46 Community and Support

01:08:10 Innovative Tools for ADHD Management

01:12:23 Cultural Perspectives and ADHD Awareness

01:17:25 Online Resources for Families

01:20:45 Building an ADHD Coaching Business

01:27:36 One Step at a Time: Advice for Parents

Guest Bio

Tiara Brumberg is an ADHD coach and educator who helps families, students, and neurodivergent adults build practical systems that make everyday life more manageable. Drawing on her background in psychology, pediatric occupational therapy, and trauma-informed care, she combines evidence-based approaches with compassionate, real-world strategies.

As the founder of The Middle ADHD Coaching, Tiara works with parents, schools, and young adults to bridge the gap between diagnosis and long-term success, helping individuals develop the skills, confidence, and support systems they need to thrive.

Resources & Links

Guest Website:
www.themiddlecoaching.net

Facebook:
The Middle ADHD Coaching

Instagram:
@the_middle_adhd_coaching

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tiara@themiddlecoaching.net

Book Mentioned:
Smart But Scattered — Peg Dawson & Richard Guare

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Details will be announced via Tiara's newsletter and social media channels.

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Dr. Inyang Takon speaks with Samantha Foote about the transformative role of music therapy in supporting neurodivergent children and their families.

Drawing from both professional expertise and personal experience, Samantha explains how music accesses multiple areas of the brain, supports emotional regulation, and creates opportunities for connection, communication, and growth

What You’ll Learn

• How music therapy supports neurodivergent children
• The science behind music and brain connectivity
• Practical emotional regulation strategies using music
• Why gradual co-regulation matters for children
• Common myths and misconceptions about music therapy
• Challenges families face in accessing support services

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity and Music Therapy
03:19 Samantha’s Journey into Music Therapy
05:39 Understanding Music Therapy Sessions
08:47 The Science Behind Music Therapy
10:44 Personal Experience and Emotional Regulation
12:12 Practical Strategies for Parents
15:52 Challenges in Music Therapy
24:11 Positive Discipline and Communication
26:17 Navigating Parenting Flexibility
28:18 Challenges in School Systems
30:26 Utilizing Music in Education
32:38 The Dual Role of Clinician and Parent
34:10 Understanding Parental Perspectives
37:44 Debunking Music Therapy Myths
39:35 Barriers to Accessing Music Therapy
41:10 Profiles of Beneficiaries of Music Therapy
44:03 The Future of Music Therapy in Neurodevelopmental Care
46:32 Connecting with Music Therapy Resources
49:14 Outro

🌍 Resources & Links

Samantha Foote & Every Brain Is Different

• Website: www.boisemusictherapycompany.com
  
  
• Podcast: https://www.everybrainisdifferent.com/podcast
  
  
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@everybrainisdifferent
  
  
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everybrainisdifferent/
  
  

💡 Why This Episode Matters

Many parents are searching for tools that go beyond behaviour management and truly support connection, regulation, and development.

This episode highlights how music can become more than entertainment—it can become a bridge to communication, emotional safety, and growth.

⚖️ Important Note

This episode is for educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult qualified professionals regarding individual therapeutic or developmental needs.

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For many families and professionals, chronic illness and neurodiversity can feel complex and overwhelming. This conversation offers a different lens—one that asks better questions, looks deeper, and recognises that health issues often have root causes.

In this thought-provoking episode of Early Intervention Matters, Dr. Inyang Takon sits down with Dr. Jess Armine to explore a different way of understanding neurodiversity and chronic illness—one that starts at the cellular level.

Drawing from years of experience in functional medicine, Dr Armine breaks down how mitochondrial function, cellular health, and underlying root causes play a critical role in both diagnosis and treatment.

This episode challenges conventional thinking and opens the door to a more holistic, investigative approach to health.

🧠 What You’ll Learn
- Why cellular health is foundational to healing
- The role of mitochondria as the body’s energy system
- How trauma and stress can impact long-term health
- A “Sherlock Holmes” approach to identifying root causes
- Why collaboration across disciplines leads to better outcomes

💬 Key Takeaways
“Cell health is the foundation of healing.”
“Mitochondria are your body’s energy producers.”
“Trauma and stress are significant root causes.”

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity and Functional Medicine
04:46 Understanding Functional Medicine
09:18 Exploring Chronic Illness and Neurodiversity
16:06 The Impact of Chronic Illness on Children
24:20 The Role of Mitochondria in Health
31:52 Patient Experiences and Expectations
37:51 Research and Collaboration in Neurodiversity
46:05 The Impact of Trauma on Health
55:33 Collaboration in Healthcare: A Holistic Perspective
01:01:55 Education and Empowerment in Functional Medicine

📚 Resources & Links

Website: www.drjessarmine.com

Complimentary 30-min Discovery Session for prospective patients:
https://drarmine.as.me/getacquainted

Social Media Links
www.linkedin.com/in/jess-armine-dc-rn-a0537329/
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Dr Jess Armine’s Book:
Leaky Gut, Leaky Cells, Leaky Brain: Where to go when all hope is lost!:
https://www.amazon.com/Leaky-Gut-Cells-Brain-Where/dp/B0949H4M44


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