Épisodes

  • Episode 1 of 1: Lessons from an Antarctic Explorer - The 3 P’s of Resilience
    Oct 2 2026

    What does it take to keep going when the odds and the elements are completely stacked against you?

    Record-setting explorer, veterinarian, and entrepreneur Dr. Geoff Wilson says resilience isn’t just grit or bravado.

    It’s built on three things:

    1. Purpose
    2. Passion, and
    3. Persistence.

    In this episode, Geoff shares hard-won lessons from expeditions across Antarctica, Greenland, the Sahara, and the Arctic and explains how the same principles helped him build and lead a successful veterinary business.

    From surviving a brutal Antarctic storm to rethinking what strength really means, Geoff makes the case that resilience is not something we’re simply born with, but something we can acquire through intent and practice.

    In this podcast, you’ll hear:

    • How purpose, passion, and persistence work together to build resilience
    • Why vulnerability enables greater endurance than bravado
    • What extreme expeditions can teach us about business, leadership, and avoiding burnout
    • How keeping work, family, and personal dreams in balance sustains motivation

    A powerful conversation about facing hardship, learning from setbacks, and finding the drive to get back up one more time.

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    47 min
  • Episode 1 of 1 | Ideaflow: The Only Business Metric That Matters By Jeremy Utley
    Jul 28 2023

    Jeremy Utley is a world-leading expert in creativity and co-author of Ideaflow. In this interview, he tells us what Ideaflow is, and why it is the only business metric that matters. He is also a director of executive education at Stanford’s d.school and an adjunct professor at Stanford’s School of Engineering.


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    51 min
  • Episode 1 of 1: Leadership Lesssons from Frontiers Like Space
    Jun 18 2024

    The Space Shuttle Challenger and Columbia disasters, along with other failed missions led NASA to rethink how it fostered leadership and culture. Now, Crazy Might Work is using an ultra-modern version of the NASA 4-Dimensional Leadership Program, (based on the current space program) to share those learnings with other organisations and leadership teams.

    In this special episode recorded at the Australian Space Summit in May 2024, Paul Hawkins talks to host Adam Thorn about the program, it's origins in Antarctica, whether leaders are born or made, and how NASA became the best place to work in federal government for the 12th year in a row.


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    24 min
  • Episode 1 of 1: Learnings From Space For The Workplace, With NASA 4-D
    Jul 13 2025

    Adam Thorn interviews award-winner Paul Hawkins on the Secret Sauce of High Performance, according to NASA

    This conversation between Adam and Paul explores why the 4-D program is so effective at creating high-performing teams. There is also a juicy serving of neuroscience and how leaders can optimise human and artificial intelligence in creative problem-solving at a strategic or organisational level. Paul discusses the skills required by leaders in 2030 and how these are sequenced in Crazy Might Work's Leading4Breakthrough® program. Leaders combine critical thinking and creative problem-solving with artificial intelligence to achieve extraordinary outcomes.


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    40 min
  • Episode 1 of 4 - How NASA Builds Teams w/ Charlie Pellerin
    Sep 1 2022

    In this first episode of 'How NASA Builds Teams', Dr. Charlie Pellerin gives us a backstory of the various challenges that he faced on his journey with NASA and how he came up with the NASA 4-D Leadership Program.

    As the former director of NASA's astrophysics department and author of "How NASA Builds Teams", Dr. Charlie Pellerin, assisted the teams at NASA after the catastrophic Space Shuttle Challenger disaster back in 1986. He developed the now-famous NASA 4-D leadership program, enabling teams to facilitate teamwork and iron out any possible miscommunications which could lead to history repeating itself. His contribution to the aerospace industry were so extraordinary that he received the highest honour of recognition, the Distinguished Service Medal. This four-episodes series hosted by Chief Combobulator of Crazy Might Work, Paul Hawkins, will dive into the specifics with Dr. Charlie Pellerin on how he invented the NASA 4-D leadership program to sharing his life experiences, and personal stories on improving one's quality of life.


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    22 min
  • Episode 1 of 1 - From Wollongong to Space: The Journey of Meganne Christian (Thus Far)
    Jun 23 2023

    Meganne Christian is a trailblazer. After obtaining her PhD in Chemical Engineering at Wollongong University, she set out to become Australia’s first female astronaut, competing successfully against 22,500 other candidates for selection as a member of the European Space Agency’s final 17, ‘Class of 2023’. Like many other astronauts before her, she has ‘Wintered Over’ in Antarctica and experienced its ICE (Isolation, Confinement and Extreme Conditions) first hand. In this podcast, Meganne shares her experiences to date, providing welcome inspiration for students everywhere who aspire to be part of the Artemis or ‘Moon to Mars’ programs. In her day job, she is researching the 'Green Hydrogen' technologies that are set to change the frontiers of energy.


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    42 min
  • Episode 1 of 1: Bridging Leadership and Innovation
    Oct 30 2023

    Why innovation is a critical leadership capability and what to do about it.

    Paul Hawkins is the Chief Combobulator at Crazy Might Work, an award-winning, for-purpose innovation agency - and the first to be launched in Antarctica. He is certified in neuroscience, innovation, and appreciative inquiry through the Neuro-Leadership Institute, Stanford and Case Western Universities respectively and is completing a PhD in Innovation. His research has unlocked the code to how great leaders can create the right culture for innovation to thrive.

    In this insightful interview, Paul reveals why innovation pillars are in so many strategic plans and how organisations can support their leaders in delivering on that promise. Paul shares how the right approach, tool and method can make all the difference in how effectively you drive innovation as a leader.


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    32 min
  • Episode 1 of 1 - Caryn Sandler 'Insights on Innovation'
    Oct 15 2022

    This special single-episode of 'Insights on Innovation' starring Caryn Sandler, Partner and Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin. Caryn has recently been awarded with the Most Innovative Change Maker at the Financial Times Most Innovated Lawyer Awards 2022. Caryn also has one innovative year in various Lawyers Weekly awards, including 2019, 2020 and 2021. In addition, Gilbert + Tobin has been the most innovative firm for the fourth year in a row at the Australian Financial Review Client Choice Awards and the winner of the Excellence and Technology and Innovation Award at the Australian Law Awards. Caryn is definitely someone who knows how to innovate and inspire change!


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    32 min