The secret of Alan Jones's success as a football coach is a guide to a successful live. Get out there, lose some sweat and don't rely on on other people.

Jones joins Nick Cater for this conversation recorded in Sydney in October 2021.

Alan Jones hosts the Alan Jones show on Sky News Australia.

Nick Cater is Executive Director of the Menzies Research Centre and a columnist with the Australian.

Jones and Cater have both contributed chapters to Australia Tomorrow, edited by Jake Thrupp, published by Connor Court. https://www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au/Australia-Tomorrow--Edited-by-Jake-Thrupp_p_461.html

Email Nick at watercooler@menziesrc.org

Tony McLellan grew up on a sheep station mending fences, killing rabbits and learning the discipline of getting things done.

It turned out to be the perfect apprenticeship for a corporate high-flyer who ran property ventures around the world before entering the oil business.

It took a crisis in his business and family life at the age of 47 to teach him the real meaning of achievement.

Tony McLellan joins Nick Cater to discuss the values and experiences that shaped his life'

A Glorious Ride: From Jumble Plains to Eternity, by Tony Mclellan with Nick Cater is published by Wilkinson Publishing

https://www.wilkinsonpublishing.com.au/book/a-glorious-ride