In this conversation, Bob Makela opens up about what it really means to live like an artist when life is anything but tidy. From a childhood shaped by fear, a volatile stepfather, and a young mom carrying her own trauma, to hitchhiking and biking across America on almost no money, Bob learned to trust the kindness of strangers and the quiet goodness in people. He shares the devastating story of his sister’s accident and suicide, how that loss changed the way he moves through life, and why he still believes the world is more generous than cruel. Bob and Joseph trace the origins of Bob’s film Green Thumbs, the subway scene that brought them together, and the simple encounters that can literally save a life. The episode lands with a powerful message to the younger self in all of us: you can do this, and your doubt is not the truth about you.

Bob Makela is a writer/director/producer who’s been creating compelling content for decades. In addition to having written hundreds of magazine/newspaper/online articles and countless screenplays and TV scripts, he’s also been hired to write onstage stories for rock stars and once got a major book publishing deal to go barhopping around America for 100 consecutive days in his VW van. He’s the editor/publisher of the indie press, Bobtimystic Books, which has published over a dozen titles. Makela also has a pair of film projects that he's hoping get distributed in 2026 — including The Groove Under the Groove, a music documentary about legendary Brazilian percussionist Paulinho da Costa, which he co-wrote; and Green Thumbs, an indie feature about an Australian backpacker who comes up with an idea to change the world by getting strangers to talk on the NYC subway. The film marks Makela's directorial debut. He also recently ended a five-month tour of duty as an elementary school music teacher.

Some conversations don’t just inform you.
They quietly reframe what strength really looks like.

This was one of those.

Nolan Michael Carll carries a calm presence that suggests he has seen more of life than most people his age. Early in childhood, a single event set off a chain reaction that would reshape his family’s sense of safety, stability, and home. What began as a routine moment became something far more serious, introducing uncertainty, illness, displacement, and a long season of disruption that stretched across his formative years.

Details emerged slowly.
Losses compounded.
Nothing was simple.

There were periods of not knowing where home would be next. Moments when systems meant to protect failed. Seasons where resilience was not a concept, but a daily requirement. Nolan learned early that comfort can vanish quickly and that endurance is rarely dramatic. It is built quietly, one day at a time.

As life continued to test his family in unexpected ways, priorities sharpened. What mattered most became clear. Presence over possessions. People over outcomes. Nolan began to understand that hardship, while never chosen, can shape depth, empathy, and perspective when met with steadiness.

School, sports, and structure became places of grounding. Later, working alongside his family on rebuilding efforts introduced him to how things are designed, constructed, and repaired, not just physically, but relationally. That curiosity and respect for systems would eventually lead him into engineering.

Nolan earned his degree in Interdisciplinary Business with Engineering Studies from Penn State Erie, combining technical thinking with a deep appreciation for real-world impact. Those who know him describe him as thoughtful, disciplined, and quietly dependable.

In this conversation, we explore resilience without spectacle, faith without performance, and leadership formed long before a title ever existed.

If you have ever sensed that what you lived through shaped you more than what you achieved
If you carry lessons that are hard to summarize but impossible to forget
If you know there is more beneath the surface of a person’s calm

This conversation is for you.

Some conversations don’t just inform you they reorient you.

This was one of those.

Angelo Sisco is a rare man, and I don’t say that lightly.

He grew up in an environment where masculinity was equated with aggression, intimidation, and violence where power was something you took, defended, or enforced. Through years of self inquiry, discipline, and courage, Angelo chose a different path and became something far more powerful than that early definition ever allowed.

He is kind.

He is deeply present.

He is emotionally fluent.

And he is fully capable of standing his ground with clarity and strength when necessary.

That combination tenderness without weakness and strength without domination is incredibly rare, and it’s something Angelo has earned through lived experience, not theory.

In this conversation, we go far beyond surface level leadership or business talk. We explore identity itself how it’s formed, how it protects us, how it limits us, and how it must eventually be rewritten if we want to live, lead, and love at a higher level.

Angelo shares with striking honesty how his commitment to self care and fitness became a turning point in his life. His weight loss journey was not about appearance or discipline for discipline’s sake. It was about learning to respect himself, regulate his nervous system, and take responsibility for his energy. That physical transformation became a gateway to emotional clarity, presence, and confidence.

Fitness is not something Angelo does on the side. It is foundational to how he shows up as a husband, a father, a friend, and a leader. Taking care of his body became a way of taking care of his relationships, his decisions, and his integrity.

We talk openly about masculinity not as bravado or suppression but as presence, responsibility, and emotional regulation. About why being dangerous is not about hurting others but about knowing you could protect what matters and choosing restraint from strength, not fear.

We also explore why identity is often the real bottleneck for leaders, how business reflects unresolved inner stories, why slowing down increases power and clarity, and how language and self talk quietly shape the way we experience life.

Throughout the episode, Angelo speaks with a grounded honesty that does not perform or posture. There is a spiritual and energetic quality to how he sees people not as problems to fix but as humans remembering who they already are.

I’m deeply grateful for Angelo’s openness and trust in this conversation. This episode is for leaders, fathers, partners, builders, and anyone who senses that the next chapter of their life requires less performance and more truth.

If your success has ever outpaced your inner peace

If you’ve known something needed to change but couldn’t quite name it

If you’re ready to stop living from old stories and start choosing who you become next

This episode is for you.