Rachel returns for part two, sharing the origin story of her relationship with Chris, reflections on parenting three different daughters, and why consistency matters even more now than when she was youth leading.

The love story begins with Chris making Rachel watch The Perfect Catch to explain that the Penrith Panthers season comes first. We hear about the legendary cheese dip incident, the mutual realisation at a flower shop, and being abandoned in the bush when Chris saw a snake.

Rachel opens up about parenting Callie, Pippa, and Bonnie, three very different daughters who need to be loved differently according to their unique needs plus other parenting wisdom.

The conversation covers 18 years teaching early childhood, leading Kids with Karen on Saturday nights, watching two and three-year-olds grow in understanding of God, and why the village approach to raising children matters.

Rachel shares what she'd tell year 10 Rachel about friends leaving church, why persistence matters, and how showing up consistently might be exactly what someone else needs.

Plus the epic toaster wedding gift prank on Greaves and Ange.

Rachel shares how youth group became her refuge during her parents' separation and shaped her entire approach to ministry and teaching.

Rachel grew up as the youngest of three, waiting years to finally join youth group. When her chance came in Year 5, it coincided with her parents splitting and youth became the place where this quiet child could finally be wild and free.

We discuss navigating high school friendships as people prioritised parties over church, the sadness of watching confirmation classmates disappear by Year 11, and what it means to keep showing up. Rachel reflects on how experiencing inconsistent leadership shaped her commitment to being there every single week when she started leading.

The conversation covers her journey from irritating Chris with excessive enthusiasm, to leading with Joel and to 18 years teaching early childhood. Plus stories about elaborate chip preparation and working at Michel's Patisserie.

Gemma returns four years after being our very first guest, and so much has changed. With Joel and Brayden, they explore her journey from anxious early twenties to finding contentment and joy.

When Gemma first appeared in 2020, she was living at home during COVID, working casually, and navigating youth ministry. Now she's married, teaching full-time, and stepped away from youth leadership to join Late Night. But the real transformation is internal.

Gemma shares about deleting social media from her phone and discovering she's happier without it. She reflects on resilience, not as being fazed by hard things, but as depending on God through difficulty. The conversation covers modelling healthy phone habits for students, the heartbreak of identity shifts when leaving youth ministry, and learning to find joy in seasons rather than rushing to the next milestone.

They also discuss teaching at a Christian school, trusting God through changes, contentment versus happiness, and fixing our eyes on Jesus when life is good and when it's not.