In a world where relying on a single income source feels increasingly risky, how can you build multiple careers without burning out?

This episode dives into the strategic and financial realities of career diversification—a proven path to financial freedom that most people never pursue. While working full-time in the NFL, Bart Oates attended law school every off-season, ultimately graduating magna cum laude. He didn't wait for his playing career to end before building his next income stream.

We're joined by 3-time Super Bowl champion Bart Oates, who brings a unique perspective as both an elite athlete and successful entrepreneur. From going undrafted to winning championships, from earning his law degree while playing professionally to building purpose-driven businesses post-retirement, Bart's journey challenges everything we think we know about "having time" to pursue our goals.

Together with host Spencer Pascal, we move beyond the typical athlete success story to examine the practical strategies behind building sustainable income streams, transitioning careers successfully, and creating financial independence that outlasts your primary career.

- The Reality of Building Multiple Income Streams While Working Full-Time

- The "Show Up" Philosophy That Compounds Wealth

- Mental Toughness for Entrepreneurs & Business Builders

- Career Transition Strategy: From Athlete to Lawyer to Entrepreneur

- Principles vs. Preferences: A Decision-Making Framework

- The Undrafted Mindset: Turning Rejection Into Championship Results

- Building Purpose-Driven Income That Lasts

- Income Diversification in Real Time

If you're stuck in the 9-5 grind wondering "what else is possible," if you're building a side hustle but struggle with consistency, or if you're considering a career pivot but think it's "too late"—this episode is for you.

Bart Steven Oates is a 3-time Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV, XXIX), 5-time Pro Bowl selection, and magna cum laude law graduate who earned his degree while playing professional football. He went from undrafted free agent to NFL legend, then successfully transitioned into law and entrepreneurship. Today, he helps former NFL players navigate the concussion settlement program, combining his playing experience with legal expertise to serve those who need it most.

Career Timeline:

• Accounting Degree, BYU (Marriott School of Business)
• 2× USFL Champion (Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars)
• NFL: New York Giants (1985-1993), San Francisco 49ers (1994-1995)
• Law Degree, Seton Hall University (earned during off-seasons), Magna Cum Laude
• Former President, NFL Alumni Association (NY-NJ Chapter)

"You show up. They show up. I play the game. I show up. I practice. I show up. I go to law school. It was really hard, but you just show up."

"I could have just shrunk up and melted away, or I could buckle up and say, I'm gonna make this as hard and impossible for him to make a change."

"There's principles and there's preferences. Principles—honesty, integrity—you never compromise. Preferences? Most things in life are preferences. Don't make them issues."

"Is it really worth starting an argument over a light when there are people out there who don't have a wife to wake up next to?"

Bart's Current Work:

• NFL Concussion Settlement Program - Helping former players (1970s-2014) navigate neurological damage claims including Alzheimer's and Parkinson's

Organizations:

• NFL Alumni Association (NY-NJ...

David Choi, CEO of Leverage Companies, reveals how he transformed a $60,000 first-year loss into a $700 million annual DSCR lending operation. Learn the exact systems, hiring practices, and mindset shifts that built his real estate empire.

What You'll Learn:

• How to scale real estate wholesaling operations
• Call center systems for property acquisition
• Data sources for motivated seller leads
• Hiring practices that build million-dollar teams
• Social media strategies for real estate professionals

• Stop doing 10,000 things and focus on ONE profitable system
• Build proper infrastructure before spending money on marketing
• Use cognitive tests and personality assessments when hiring
• Document real business moments instead of creating scripted content
• Having a bigger mission creates urgency and better results

[00:00] Introduction and background

[02:00] Leverage Companies business overview

[08:00] The mindset shift that changed everything

[14:00] Year one failure: Losing $60,000 in real estate

[20:00] Data sources and call center operations

[28:00] Hiring practices and team building

[35:00] Spencer's business transformation story

[43:00] Creating a real estate coaching program

[50:00] Social media strategy and life purpose

David Choi is the Founder and CEO of Leverage Companies, a real estate private equity firm specializing in single-family rental acquisition and DSCR lending. His company processes $700 million in loans annually while maintaining a portfolio of rental properties across New Jersey.

• Company: Leverage Companies
• Program: Collective Genius
• Focus: Real estate wholesaling, DSCR lending, investor education

Connect with Cashflow Corner Podcast:

• Website: cashflowcornerpodcast.com
• Follow Spencer: @spencerpascal on Instagram

Listen: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms

In this deeply personal episode, Spencer sits down with his wife Beth Pascal for an unfiltered conversation about what it really takes to build a successful relationship when one partner is living the high-performance entrepreneur lifestyle.

From late-night business calls to constant travel, this episode pulls back the curtain on how they've navigated the challenges of building an empire together while maintaining a strong marriage.

[2:00] The Entrepreneur Marriage Reality

How Beth went from resenting Spencer's late nights and constant phone calls to becoming his biggest supporter.

[8:30] Building Trust After Past Hurt

Both were cheated on before, so they had to learn to trust again - including why they chose NOT to share phone locations.

[14:00] Learning to Pick Your Battles

Beth shares the "folded shirt incident" that taught her when arguments are worth having and when to just let things go.

[18:00] Power Couple Philosophy

Spencer explains his "empire building" approach to marriage and how both partners need defined roles to succeed together.

[26:30] Travel Tips for Couples

Practical advice on group travel packages and budget-friendly ways to see the world together.

[30:00] The Pregnancy Scare Story

The hilarious and panic-inducing story from month 2 of dating that involved a midnight pharmacy run in Sarasota.

• Website: cashflowcornerpodcast.com
• Follow Spencer: @spencerpascal on Instagram
• Listen: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms