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  • How Smarter Buyers are Forcing a Go-To-Market Evolution with Guy Rubin
    Jan 7 2026

    In this live episode of the CRO Spotlight Podcast, Warren sits down with Guy Rubin to discuss the recent acquisition of Ebsta by Fullcast and what it signals for the market. Guy explains the strategic reasoning behind the consolidation, highlighting how the current landscape of disparate point solutions is becoming unsustainable. He argues that the future belongs to unified revenue platforms that connect data across the entire lifecycle, moving from a fragmented tech stack to a cohesive "plan to pay" model that drives true efficiency.

    The conversation shifts to the broader Go-To-Market environment, where the cost of building tech is dropping while the cost of selling rises. Guy points out that while AI tools are exploding, they often create more noise than value when isolated. He predicts a massive consolidation where businesses move away from traditional CRMs requiring manual entry toward intelligent data lakes and AI agents. This shift requires leaders to learn how to ask the right questions of their data rather than simply managing administrative forms.

    Warren and Guy also explore the dramatic shift in buyer behavior, illustrated by how AI empowers customers to conduct deep research before ever speaking to a human. With buyers capable of building their own business cases, the role of the seller must evolve from a gatekeeper of information to a consultative partner. They discuss why this dynamic forces organizations to lean heavily into partner ecosystems and community validation, as buyers increasingly bypass traditional sales pitches to seek out trusted peer networks.

    Finally, they dig into strategies for CROs and Private Equity firms looking to audit their revenue engines. Guy introduces "Revenue Insights as a Service," a method of connecting to historical data to generate an immediate "X-ray" of the business before implementing new tech. This allows leaders to identify root causes of inefficiency—like bad data hygiene or territory imbalances—and present concrete, data-backed roadmaps to the C-suite for rapid improvement without waiting months for a new system implementation.

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    42 min
  • Sales Transformation & Customer-Centric Revenue with Dr. Grant Van Ulbrich
    Dec 17 2025

    In this episode, Warren speaks with Dr. Grant Van Ulbrich, the world’s first doctor of Sales Transformation. They discuss a critical gap in the modern revenue landscape: while other business functions have deep academic rigor, sales education has remained largely stagnant since the 1980s. Grant explains why traditional "tips and tricks" no longer work on informed buyers and why a shift from transactional interactions to genuine value alignment is necessary for business survival.

    The conversation dives into the psychology of change and Grant’s "Scared So What" methodology. Most leaders manage operations, not emotions, yet sales is fundamentally an act of imposing change. Grant breaks down how understanding personal reactions to change allows revenue leaders to move from simply telling teams what to do to empowering them through transformational leadership. This approach helps teams navigate the fear of new strategies and structures.

    Grant shares insights from the global cruise industry, revealing how shifting focus from internal agendas to customer needs dramatically improved sales effectiveness. He highlights the dangers of "product dumping" and the importance of co-creation. By treating sales as a coaching opportunity rather than a coercion tactic, organizations can align internal culture with the external customer experience to ensure a consistent brand promise across all channels.

    Finally, the discussion offers actionable advice for CEOs and CROs on navigating organizational restructuring. They explore why high-performing individual contributors often struggle in leadership roles without the right psychological tools. This episode is essential for executives looking to modernize their go-to-market strategy, foster a culture of ownership among their teams, and utilize science-backed frameworks to drive sustainable revenue growth.

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    54 min
  • Balancing an AI-Native Strategy with Human Connection with Amy Osmond Cook
    Dec 10 2025

    In this episode of the CRO Spotlight Podcast, Warren Zenna sits down with Amy Osmond Cook, Co-Founder and CMO at Fullcast, to tackle the pressing challenge of balancing AI innovation with authentic human connection. As revenue leaders race to adopt AI-native strategies, the risk of losing trust through impersonal automation grows. Amy shares her perspective on why technology should enhance, not replace, the creative human element in Go-To-Market motions, setting the stage for a discussion on modern leadership.

    Amy details the evolution of Fullcast into a comprehensive Revenue Operations platform through strategic acquisitions like Ebsta and Copy.ai. She explains how these moves allowed the company to build a fully AI-native sales performance management solution. By integrating territory planning, forecasting, and analytics, Fullcast aims to solve the fragmented tech stack issue. Amy outlines the vision behind merging these capabilities to support mid-market and enterprise revenue teams effectively.

    Integrating multiple companies is a complex operational challenge. Amy discusses the nuances of merging distinct cultures and leadership styles into one cohesive organization. She emphasizes the importance of clear communication, defined playbooks, and celebrating wins to align distributed teams. Her insights provide a practical blueprint for leaders managing growth through acquisition while striving to maintain a unified company identity and shared purpose across international borders.

    Finally, the dialogue covers the evolving landscape for revenue leaders. Warren and Amy examine the pressure on CROs to adopt AI strategies while relying on experience to guide decision-making. Amy explains how Fullcast meets customers where they are, offering flexible solutions for their specific needs. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the skills required to lead in the current market and how to navigate the intersection of data and intuition successfully.

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    54 min
  • Vetting the CRO Role & Avoiding the "VP of Sales" Trap with Mike Price
    Dec 3 2025

    In this episode, Warren Zenna sits down with Mike Price, CRO at DTEX Systems, to explore the critical evolution from a functional salesperson to a holistic business leader. Mike shares his unique journey, influenced by an entrepreneurial upbringing, and discusses why successful CROs must view themselves as business executives first. He argues that while sales skills are foundational, the ability to understand the broader mechanics of an organization is what truly defines the modern revenue leader.

    A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to the art of vetting a potential CRO opportunity. Mike provides actionable advice on how to interview the CEO, specifically regarding the company’s readiness for a true Chief Revenue Officer. He warns against accepting roles that are merely "VP of Sales" with a different title and emphasizes the importance of asking why the organization believes it needs a CRO right now. This advice is vital for executives ensuring they enter an environment ready for strategic change.

    The discussion also delves into the paradox of ambition and control. Mike explains that true executive maturity involves the willingness to cede control to a specialized team rather than being the smartest person in the room. He draws a compelling parallel to professional sports, noting that one must love the entire "game"—including practice and preparation—not just the moments of individual glory. This mindset shift is essential for leaders who want to build autonomous, high-performing teams.

    Finally, the dialogue covers the necessity of experimentation and reframing failure as a necessary step toward innovation. Mike shares insights on creating an environment where strategic risks are encouraged to drive growth. To close, he outlines his current work at DTEX Systems, addressing the "last frontier" of cybersecurity: insider risk management. He explains how understanding human behavior within an organization is key to protecting intellectual property and ensuring long-term business resilience.

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    59 min
  • Building the Machine & Guarding the Culture with Christian Gerron
    Nov 26 2025

    In this episode of CRO Spotlight, Warren Zenna sits down with Christian Gerron, Chief Revenue Officer at StackAdapt. They dive into the complexities of the programmatic ad tech space, a market saturated with thousands of players. Christian explains how StackAdapt differentiates itself by moving beyond a simple DSP to become a unified "operating system," helping marketers reduce friction and increase ROI by integrating first-party data, programmatic, and measurement tools in one platform.

    Christian shares his unconventional journey into the C-suite, starting his career in finance at Microsoft before transitioning to sales and operations. He defines the CRO role not as a "super seller" but as an operator responsible for building and tuning the entire revenue "machine." This connected ecosystem includes sales, client services, analytics, and RevOps, all working in unison. He discusses why the authority to execute and drive impact is the true motivator for top revenue leaders.

    How do you execute in such a cutthroat market? Christian details the GTM transformation at StackAdapt. He describes moving the team from a generalist approach—where everyone targeted the same high-value territories—to a specialized and segmented model. By implementing focused territories, specializing by vertical (like B2B or healthcare), and splitting teams into "hunters" (new business) and "farmers" (account growth), the revenue org achieved faster, more efficient growth.

    Christian emphasizes that talent and culture are the ultimate differentiators. At StackAdapt, the hiring process is designed to find functional competency while actively filtering out "politics players" to protect a culture of trust and speed. He concludes with powerful advice for both aspiring CROs (focus on operational rigor and talent) and the CEOs hiring them (find a true "business leader" who thinks in systems, and then give them the autonomy to build the machine).

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    55 min
  • Leadership Structures & AI at $1B Scale with Steven Birdsall
    Nov 19 2025

    In this CRO Spotlight episode, host Warren Zenna sits down with Steven Birdsall, CRO at Alteryx, to unpack a sweeping leadership transition and how a newly formed C‑suite aligned on product and go‑to‑market. Steven shares how a product‑centric CEO and a servant‑leader CRO combine to create clarity of mandate, performance culture, and human‑first execution across sales, CS, partners, and solutions engineering.

    The conversation dives deep into Alteryx’s evolution from workflows feeding BI to becoming the governed “canvas” for AI and agent use cases. Steven explains how business users can blend structured and unstructured data, enforce governance and access controls, and then safely bring LLMs into the same environment—pushing compute down to cloud data platforms like BigQuery, Databricks, and Snowflake.

    For CROs, Steven details practical AI operationalization: SDR personalization at scale, three‑dimensional agents trained on company knowledge, and revenue insights built directly on internal data. He outlines how to raise sales efficiency without scaling opex linearly, and why fast experimentation with new AI tools is now core to modern GTM orchestration.

    Steven closes with hiring and leadership principles for today’s CRO: prioritize grit, perseverance, and customer centricity over pedigree; remove roadblocks for the field; and mentor generously. He shares how to balance data‑driven rigor with empathy, build alignment with marketing regardless of reporting lines, and stay entrepreneurial—even inside a large, complex organization.

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    54 min
  • Value Engineering & The ROI Discovery Process with Mike Genstil
    Nov 12 2025

    In this episode of the CRO Spotlight, Warren Zenna welcomes Mike Genstil, CEO at ValueCore, to discuss a critical inefficiency in modern sales: the "value gap." Mike explains that too often, sellers rush to provide a price quote while buyers remain fixated on features, rather than starting the conversation by aligning on the specific problems the organization faces and what those problems are costing them.

    Warren and Mike explore why "value engineering" isn't commonplace. Mike contrasts the role with the ubiquitous Sales Engineer. While organizations readily invest in Sales Engineers for technical validation, the Value Engineer—who handles the business validation—is often scarce and stretched thin. Mike argues this function is critical for justifying high-ticket solutions to a buying committee and proving impact beyond just features.

    The conversation shifts to the process of value engineering, which Mike describes as the most effective form of sales discovery. He outlines the four key buckets that Value Engineers analyze to build a business case that resonates with a CFO: hard cost savings, team productivity gains, revenue acceleration (such as customer acquisition or retention), and strategic risk mitigation. This diligence helps the buyer champion the solution internally.

    Finally, Mike discusses how technology platforms are making value engineering more scalable and integrated. He explains how AI can rapidly analyze public data, case studies, and even call recordings to build robust models. This technology allows pre-sales and post-sales teams to collaborate on value. They also cover how a strong value framework is essential for managing Proof of Concepts (POCs), preventing "tire-kickers" by agreeing on success metrics upfront.

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    30 min
  • From BDR to CRO: Building Cross-Functional GTM with Michael Maimone
    Oct 1 2025

    Warren Zenna sits down with Michael Maimone, CRO at LucidLink, to unpack his journey from BDR to enterprise sales leader to CRO. Michael shares how his time at IBM, Marketo, Adobe, and ZoomInfo shaped a systems mindset, enabling him to translate big-company rigor into agile, early-stage execution without stifling momentum.

    They dive into the first 30-60-90 days in the seat: observe, diagnose, implement. Michael explains how he sequenced quick wins—enablement, RevOps guardrails, hiring profiles, interview kits—before rolling out robust territory, account, and opportunity planning. He emphasizes credibility through results and the art of modulation when change-managing seasoned teams.

    Michael details LucidLink’s category-defining approach to distributed cloud file access for massive media and design workflows, and how that expands into broader enterprise use cases. He outlines direct and channel motions, global team structure, and the zero-knowledge security model that unlocks collaboration without compromising control.

    The conversation closes with pragmatic AI adoption across Gong, ZoomInfo, dialers, website conversion, and Gemini-driven planning. Michael shares early signal lifts, how to beat tool fatigue, why human analysts still matter, and advice to aspiring CROs: lead cross-functionally, stay humble, build lieutenants, and align every motion to predictable, scalable revenue.

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    57 min