Welcome back to The Human Mix.

In this episode, Nick and Lydia sit down with author, speaker, and “Mental Wealth” advocate Mike Pagan for a deep, uplifting, and often eye-opening conversation about isolation, support networks, and the power of saying no.

Mike brings his signature blend of honesty, humour, and straight-talking clarity to explore why so many of us—especially business owners, parents, and high-achievers—end up feeling emotionally drained and alone, even when surrounded by people.

He unpacks the hidden costs of hybrid working, the myths around self-sufficiency, and why we’re terrible at asking for help until we’re on the brink.

Together, they dig into building your “Mental Wealth Team,” the crucial difference between solitude and isolation, and the uncomfortable truth that personal responsibility is both the problem and the solution.

From the yappy “dog” on Mike’s shoulder to the horror-movie highlight reel we all replay in our heads, this episode is filled with relatable moments and practical strategies for getting unstuck.

Mike also shares powerful stories—from laughter yoga in Mumbai to a life-changing phone call in the middle of the night—illustrating how connection, community, and simple human outreach can make an extraordinary difference. The conversation flows between psychology, personal growth, family fears, public speaking confidence, and the small acts of self-care that keep us grounded.

Whether you're a leader, a parent, a business owner, or someone quietly carrying too much, this episode is a reminder that you don’t have to do life alone—and that reaching out can change someone’s world.

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