What if you saw your vulnerability as a superpower rather than a sign of weakness?

Mike Krupit spent decades as a Silicon Valley daredevil, launching eight startups and handling millions without flinching, but he admits his most important Bold Move wasn't in business; it was finally taking off the mask he’d worn for 35 years.

In this episode, Mike peels back the layers on how he used professional risks to shield himself from personal vulnerability, and why dismantling the "tower" he built around his emotions was the only way to live an authentic life.

If you are projecting perfection, but underneath, you're really living behind a mask, you are likely causing your own setbacks and dissatisfaction.

We also dive into a tool called Autocratic Coaching to explain how micro-instructions can short-circuit the panic that comes with being vulnerable. Plus, we tackle the Sunk Cost Fallacy and why pivoting from something you've invested years in can actually be a great victory.

Tune in now to hear why vulnerability is the key that unlocks a whole lot more of your potential and how to start, one step at a time.

And over on Substack, we’re dropping the masks and building our "Bold Moves" muscle —one messy step at a time. Join us as we figure it out together: kristenrocco.substack.com.

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Website: www.trajectify.com

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Happy New Year, Bold Movers! I hope your 2026 is off to an incredible start. As we step into this fresh chapter, we’re setting intentions, resolutions, and goals, often relying on that inner voice to steer us right. But today, I want to flip the script on a piece of advice we usually accept as a universal truth. This is a vital conversation because it challenges a well-known convention, particularly if you struggle with anxiety.

You’re told constantly to trust your gut. It is the golden rule of intuition—if something feels wrong, don't do it. But what happens when your gut is driven by anxiety instead of wisdom?

For Rachel Lipson, founder of Blue Balloon Songwriting School and Brooklyn Family Travelers, learning not to trust your gut was the key to her bold move. As a child battling agoraphobia, Rachel’s intuition screamed at her to stay safe and stay home. If she had listened to that feeling, she never would have left Michigan or her reputable teaching job for something more that was calling to her.

In this episode, Rachel shares how she rejected the instinct to seek safety and moved to New York City to force herself out of her comfort zone. She reveals why “trust your gut” might be problematic advice for anyone with anxiety, and how she learned to proceed with caution instead of paralysis.

Rachel also walks us through her 17-year journey of entrepreneurship, sharing her brilliant metaphor for sustaining a business. Plus, we cover her latest pivot into Brooklyn Family Travelers, where she teaches families how to use credit card points to explore the world.

Hit play now and learn why you might need to stop trying to trust your gut to finally make your bold move!

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Brooklyn Family Travelers: brooklynfamilytravelers.substack.com

Blue Balloon Songwriting School: blueballoonschool.com

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Do you need a wake-up call to start following your dreams? And a roadmap for building a business that supports them?

Then let me tell you about my guest today, Erin Fortin.

In July 2024, Erin was in the prime of her life. She was healthy, active, and focused on building a thriving business. But during a routine jog with her husband, her world went black.

At just 37 years old, Erin suffered a stroke—a moment that stopped her in her tracks and completely reshaped her perspective on what it actually means to make a bold move.

Today’s episode is about that wake-up call. It’s about the shift from feeling invincible to realizing that we don't get a vote on when our time is up. This conversation of building her business is viewed through the lens of the urgent, new philosophy she now lives by: Don't Wait.

Before her health scare, Erin made a massive pivot from a "corporate robot job" as a chemist at Intel Corporation to building a business from the ground up: Erin Fortin Photography.

We discuss exactly how she navigated that transition and the systems required for building a business that could survive—and even thrive—during her six-month medical recovery.

We dive deep into:

• The Wake-Up Call: Erin’s candid story of surviving a stroke and discovering a hole in her heart she never knew existed.
• The "Corporate Robot" Job: How Erin knew it was time to trade her lab coat for a camera lens.
• The Math of the Leap: How she reverse-engineered her expenses and runway before quitting corporate life.
• Systems & Scaling: The specific tools and delegation strategies that kept her bicoastal business running while she was in the hospital.
• 📸 The Full-Circle Moment: A behind-the-scenes look at photographing an event in Gloria Steinem's living room.

Erin’s Bold Moves Advice: "We don't get a vote as to when and where and how we go. So do it now. Do it scared. Don't wait."

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Connect with Guest Erin Fortin:

• Website: erinfortinphotography.com
• Instagram: @erinfortinphoto

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Mentioned in this Episode:

• Bold Moves: How Did You Know episode: The Real Cost of Low (And how to Fix It) with Confidence Coach Simone Knego

Did you know that women typically apply for jobs only when they meet 100% of the qualifications, while men apply when they hit just 60%? Even more concerning, nearly 80% of women struggle with low self-esteem and shy away from self-advocacy at work.

This isn’t a competence gap. It’s a confidence gap.

I sat down with Confidence Coach Simone Knego to discuss how women can start chipping away at these statistics by building unshakeable self-confidence.

Simone is a best-selling author, two-time TEDx speaker, and the co-host of the podcast Her Unshakeable Confidence. But her journey wasn't a straight line. For years, she battled her inner critic of self-doubt rooted in past trauma and the pressures of comparison.

From raising six children to summiting Mount Kilimanjaro, Simone discovered that confidence isn't something you are born with; it’s something you build in the messy, chaotic moments of everyday life. In this episode, she shares the raw truth about the cost of under-confidence and the practical tools she used to go from unsure to unshakeable.

Simone teaches us:

• The REAL Method: A four-step framework (Respect yourself, Embrace your failures, Ask for what you want, Live without limits) to build lasting self-esteem.
• The "Control-Alt-Delete" Hack: A mental strategy to identify false narratives.
• How to rewire your brain: Why positive affirmations work scientifically and the specific "5 I's" Simone uses every morning.
• Reframing Imposter Syndrome: How to stop justifying your existence by dropping the word "just" (e.g., "I'm just a mom") and why feeling underqualified is often a sign of growth.

Like this episode? There's a whole community of Bold Movers over on Substack. Join us and build your bold moves muscle with us! https://kristenrocco.substack.com

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Connect with Guest Simone Knego

Website: simoneknego.com

Book: Real Confidence: A Simple Guide to Go from Unsure to Unshakeable at realconfidencebook.com

Simone's reflection on how climbing Mount Kilimanjaro changed her life: https://simoneknego.com/how-climbing-a-mountain-can-change-your-life/

I'm so excited to be joined by a special co-host for this episode, Tyler Hakes. Tyler is the principal at the content marketing agency, Optimist, and we’ve been collaborating on a new project!

In this “How We Built It” episode, Tyler and I pull back the curtain on our recent collaboration, where we launched a new methodology for content marketing called the Authority Moat Model. We show you how you can turn industry chaos—like the disruption we've all seen from AI—into a new market opportunity.

Listen in to get the practical, three-part framework I developed from our process. We'll walk you through how to spot a trend, diagnose the real problem or unmet need it creates, and architect an innovative solution. This is a real-world case study for making a bold move inside of your bold move, whether you're an entrepreneur or an intrapreneur.

And if marketing is your business, you’re in luck. We explain how our Authority Moat Model builds compounding authority and tangible ROI for your brand, inspiring trust with your audience in a way that AI never can.

Like this episode? There's a whole community of Bold Movers over on Substack. Join us and build your bold moves muscle with us! https://kristenrocco.substack.com

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Connect with Co-host Tyler Hakes

On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-hakes/

Read our Authority Moat Model Transformation Narrative: https://www.yesoptimist.com/authority-moat-model/

Most people learn the rules and play the game. But what happens when you reject the rules everyone else accepts? For Michelle Beyo, CEO and founder of Finavator, rejecting convention started early. In this episode, Michelle shares the pivotal moment her entrepreneurial parents told her they didn't believe in university and wouldn't pay for it, advising her to “go work somewhere and learn something practical" instead.

This bold rejection of a standard path led her to a year in Australia, taking jobs from barista to marketer to working on a camel farm. That experience taught her to be agile and fail forward —a lesson that would define her career.

Michelle walks us through the rollercoaster of entrepreneurship, including the "trough of sorrow". She reveals how the catastrophic Silicon Valley Bank crash in 2023 became the catalyst for her biggest pivot: creating the "Future of Finance Masterclass."

Join us to learn how to ride the highs and lows of any Bold Move journey and find the courage to fail forward.

Like this episode? There's a whole community of Bold Movers over on Substack. Join us and build your bold moves muscle with us! https://kristenrocco.substack.com

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On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellebeyo/

Get a discount on Michelle’s “Future of Finance Masterclass” with code: BoldMoves25 https://www.finavatorfuturefinancemasterclass.com/offers/moerwgYe?coupon_code=BOLDMOVES25

Imagine your workday begins by delivering the world's most sensitive intelligence directly to the president of the United States.

Sounds like a job for fictional characters like Jack Ryan, Carrie Mathieson (Homeland), ​​Owen Hendricks (The Recruit).

But no. That was the reality for my guest, Kelly McGannon, during her 20-year career with the CIA.

She delivered sensitive intelligence to two US presidents. Kelly's work profoundly shaped US policy, earning her the National Intelligence Meritorious Unit citation twice. More than an intelligence strategist, Kelly bridges her high-stakes career with a deep physical intuition honed through years of martial arts and practicing in high-stakes scenarios at the CIA.

Kelly is one of the most exceptional storytellers I’ve met, and these are juicy! She shares how she got recruited to the CIA (does the gray man actually exist?), her boldest, hallmark moment leading to historic changes at the Agency, the myths surrounding the CIA, and how she initiated significant wellness programs within the Agency to cope with the psychological toll of her role.

Kelly teaches us:

• How to remain anchored in your core values while navigating a demanding career and making bold moves.
• A practical technique you can use today for maintaining your calm in high-stress situations.
• How to tap into body intelligence for decision-making around your bold move.
• Why – not how – you should make a bold move.

Push play now to be debriefed on bold moves from a former CIA analyst. I promise, you can't miss this one!

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On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellymcgannon/

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Being the first is bold. No one has gone before you. There is no playbook. You are charting the course, sometimes confidently because of your immense conviction and sometimes courageously because your gut sense is leading you.

Being the first… that’s the theme of this episode with Ashley Cheretes, Director of Gen AI at Prudential Financial.

When Ashley applied for a new director of Gen AI role at her organization, this is exactly what she confronted: an interesting job description in an emerging space that no one in her organization–or anywhere else for that matter–had ever done before.

When you make your bold move, you’re going to be the first in some capacity. The steps to achieve your vision will look blurry.

I asked Ashley how she is navigating being the first to help us all in our Bold Move firsts. From keeping a "kudos folder" to overcome bad days to figuring out how to overcome her stakeholders’ hesitations about a new technology, she shares practices you can embrace to help you confidently lead and navigate the path when no one has gone before you.

Ashley teaches us her tips for:

• Overcoming imposter syndrome.
• What to do when you don’t have all the answers.
• How to break through the status quo to influence change
• And much more

This episode is a powerful two-for-one. You'll get actionable advice on the skills needed to be first in your bold move, alongside critical insights into AI from one of the industry's foremost experts. Ashley shares the same expertise she's brought to stages at Adobe Summit, The AI Leaders Forum, Boston University, and Vanguard, making this a can't-miss conversation.

Stay tuned until the end for her rapid-fire answers to your pressing questions about AI:

• Where do you see AI being the most effective? What problems is it solving for businesses?
• What are AI’s limitations?
• What are the AI courses you recommend?
• What’s the predictive capability of gen AI?
• What’s Agentic AI?

Like this episode? There's a whole community of Bold Movers over on Substack. Join us and build your bold moves muscle with us! https://kristenrocco.substack.com

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Connect with Guest Ashley Cheretes

On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleycheretes/