In this episode, Linda Lybert sits down with Peter Gordon, Board of Education member, UV industry veteran, and volunteer with UV4Good, a nonprofit dedicated to education around photonic disinfection. Together, they unpack the complexities healthcare leaders face when choosing and using UV systems.

Peter breaks down:

• The different types of UV emitters (LED, mercury, xenon) and what they’re actually good for
• Why line‑of‑sight, room layout, and human behavior can make or break effectiveness
• How to evaluate sales claims, ask the right questions, and avoid costly missteps
• What the EPA, FDA, and UK regulators are — and aren’t — doing
• How hospitals can validate performance, build staff habits, and monitor long‑term effectiveness
• The “Goldilocks zone” of UV: balancing pathogen reduction with protecting hospital materials

Whether you’re an infection preventionist, environmental services leader, or just curious about the technology behind safer healthcare environments, this conversation delivers clarity, nuance, and practical guidance straight from someone who has lived it from both the technical and educational sides.

In this episode, public health leader and combat veteran Aaron Woodall joins Linda Lybert to explore the importance of collaboration across infection prevention, environmental services, and nursing teams. Together, they discuss how shared accountability, education, and proactive leadership can reduce healthcare-associated infections and strengthen safety culture in every facility.

In this episode of Beyond the Surface, Dr. Gavin Macgregor-Skinner shares what it was like to spend 14 hours as a patient in a busy hospital emergency department. From observing cleaning practices to noticing gaps in infection prevention and staff training, Gavin offers a rare dual perspective—both as a healthcare safety expert and as someone receiving care. Together with host Linda, they discuss the unseen risks patients and families should be aware of, the importance of environmental services in infection control, and how a culture of safety must extend beyond patients to include staff, equipment, and the built environment.