Try to find a woman who’s never dealt with imposter syndrome… we dare you.

Or rather, try to find a woman who’s never been told that imposter syndrome is to blame for her feelings of inadequacy, her doubt in her abilities, her general questioning of The System. To examine this phenomenon and how it impacts women of color specifically—and question whether imposter syndrome is really the root of problem at all—host Bella Sangar sat down with two highly accomplished, Seattle-based women: Angela Dunleavy, the CEO of FareStart, and Trish Millines Dziko, co-founder and executive director of the Technology Access Foundation.

San Jose-based author and scholar Joanne Rondilla has spent her career studying colorism, first anecdotally in the skincare industry, then academically as a researcher. In this episode of Bella’s Table, host Bella Sangar sits down with Rondilla to talk about their lived experience as Asians in America, and how discrimination based on skin tone continues to show up.

New Year’s Day changed everything for broadcast journalist Michelle Li. During a standard segment on traditional foods eaten on the holiday, Li briefly mentioned eating “dumpling soup,” referencing the Korean dish duk mandu guk. Later, she went viral after airing the voicemail a racist caller left her, criticizing Li for being “very Asian.” Li turned the critique into a rallying cry, and #veryAsian blew up on social media, leading Li to cofound the Very Asian Foundation dedicated to “shine a light on Asian experiences through advocacy and celebration.”

And though she’s widely known now for her advocacy and storytelling, Li is also a mother—you’ll see her adorable toddler show up intermittently if you follow her on Instagram. When Bella’s Table host Bella Sangar sat down to talk motherhood—the good, the bad, the ugly—with a fellow parent, Li was a natural choice.

It seemed only fitting that their conversation is punctuated by the background squeals of Li’s son, as her family was snowed in during a storm, with outside childcare not an option. Moms, they get shit done, right?