We welcome back Cory Klippsten, the founder and CEO of Swan, a leading Bitcoin financial services company dedicated to helping individuals and institutions build generational wealth. Cory is a prominent voice in the Bitcoin space, known for his relentless focus on education, his "Bitcoin-only" philosophy, and his deep roots in the Silicon Valley venture capital ecosystem. Five years after his first appearance on the podcast, Cory returns to sit down with Sebastian to reflect on the massive shifts in the Bitcoin landscape, the evolution of his vision from a small startup idea to a global wealth platform, and the personal growth that comes with leadership and fatherhood.

Topics Discussed:

• Bitcoin evolution
• Market crashes and cycles
• Bitcoin vs. Crypto
• Institutionalization of Bitcoin
• Quantum computing myths
• Venture capital in Silicon Valley
• Content-led customer acquisition
• Corporate raids and resilience
• Staffing and difficult layoffs
• Custody and security models
• Wealth management for the "middle"
• Fatherhood and decision-making
• Leadership through gut instinct
• Breathwork and physical grounding

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We welcome Dr. Mary Pardee, naturopathic and preventative medicine doctor and founder of Modrn Med, a science-based integrative medical practice focused on personalized, preventative care. Specializing in chronic gut issues, Mary brings a grounded perspective that challenges rigid wellness narratives and reactive healthcare. Together, we explore discipline versus rigidity, intuition, nervous system health, and what it means to build a sustainable, informed relationship with health beyond rules and optimization.

Topics Discussed:

• Preventative medicine vs. reactive healthcare
• Longevity, healthspan, and optimizing how we live—not just how long
• Chronic gut issues (IBS, constipation, bloating) and their systemic roots
• Discipline vs. rigidity in health, nutrition, and lifestyle
• Intuition, nervous system regulation, and listening to the body
• The danger of misinformation in the integrative/functional medicine space
• Supplements, myths, and the importance of evidence-based treatment
• Personalized, patient-centered care vs. one-size-fits-all protocols
• Stress, control, and their impact on digestion and overall health
• Awareness and responsibility without shame or perfectionism
• Redefining health as a relationship, not a performance

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In a rare twist, Jason Goldberg takes the interviewer’s seat and turns the conversation toward our dear host, Sebastian Naum Leon — entrepreneur, public speaker, and the inquisitive voice behind the top 3% global podcast Aware with Seb — to explore his personal journey, philosophy, and vision for conscious leadership. Throughout the episode, Seb reflects on integrating spirituality, business, and authenticity, showing how self-awareness, curiosity, and aligned action cultivate not just better leaders, but better humans. He speaks candidly about letting go of judgment, redefining success beyond performance, and building from purpose rather than pressure, offering listeners an intimate look at his values and long-term vision: a world where leadership is rooted in presence, connection, meaning, and joyful impact, and where conscious businesses catalyze a more human, alive way of living.

Topics Discussed:

• Rapid Fire: Seb’s Core Beliefs
• From God to Douche: Authentic Relationships
• Seb’s Childhood & Family Influence
• Early Interest in Psychology & Entrepreneurship
• First Business & Consciousness in Business
• Discovering & Leading CCLA
• Integrating Spirituality and Business
• Practical Steps for Conscious Business
• The Power of Vulnerability in Leadership
• The Conscious Edge Framework
• Awareness, Alignment, Meaning, and Joy at Work
• Creating Meaning in Any Job
• TV Analogy: Severance & Work-Life Separation
• Rapid Fire: Vulnerability & Spirituality
• Imposter Syndrome & Authenticity
• Delusion, Self-Belief, and Leadership Archetypes
• True/False: Self-Awareness, Spiritual Bypass, and Limiting Beliefs
• Seb’s Future: Speaking, Writing, and Impact
• Vision for a Wonderful World

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