Episode Overview

In this episode of AI Leadership Lab,Ryan sits down with Jeff Lurie, Chief Business Officer of Perigon, to explore how AI is transforming the way organizations consume and act on news and real-time information. Jeff unpacks the fundamental problem of information overload explains how AI is needed to go beyond basic keyword monitoring to deliver structured, actionable intelligence. For anyone who has wrestled with clunky, expensive media monitoring tools or wasted hours sifting through irrelevant alerts, this conversation offers ideas on how to stay informed with AI.

Key Takeaways

AI Monitoring vs. On-Demand Search: Two Different Tools ChatGPT and similar tools are great for on-demand, in-the-moment queries but they are not built for proactive monitoring. Perigon is designed to continuously watch hundreds of thousands of global sources without requiring users to ask for detailed updates.

Actionable Intelligence, Not Just Data

There is a wide gap between raw data and useful decisions — closing it will take better context, categorization, and entity recognition.

Conversational AI Keeps Humans in Charge

Some companies are going further than just keeping a "human in the loop." Perigon's agent is designed to ask follow-up clarifying questions rather than make assumptions, ensuring users stay in control of their monitoring setup.

Hyper-Specificity Across a Multi-Persona Market

Perigon's customer base across comms, financial institutions, law firms, and marketers share the common thread of needing to make precise decisions based on published data, whether the use case is brand tracking, competitive intelligence, or lead generation.

The Future Is Agentic and Predictive

Jeff outlines Perigon's roadmap vision: delivering intelligence directly into the tools people already use Slack, Google Sheets, HubSpot without requiring a login to yet another dashboard. One trend he spots is that platforms in this space will proactively suggest monitoring signals based on a user's past behavior, much like how Amazon anticipates consumer preferences.

Chapter Timestamps

[00:00] The problem Perigon is solving: taking monitoring to actionable intelligence

[01:32] The spectrum of existing tools: too much vs. too little

[03:00] Information overload as a centuries-old problem

[03:41] Design flaws in legacy tools and the birth of the business

[05:02] How natural language prompting changes the user experience

[06:18] The AI analyst model follow-up questions and human control

[07:00] Why ChatGPT alone is not a substitute for proactive monitoring

[08:22] How results are delivered: tables, briefings, real-time alerts

[09:44] Who uses Perigon and why the multi-persona market is both exciting and challenging

[11:12] Global sourcing and language translation capabilities

[11:39] What's next: agentic delivery and predictive signal suggestions

About the Guest

Jeff Lurie is the Chief Business Officer of Perigon. With a background spanning sales, strategy, and business development in the data and media technology space, Jeff focuses on helping organizations move from passive information consumption to proactive, decision-ready intelligence.

At Perigon, Jeff works closely with customers across communications, finance, legal, and marketing to ensure the platform delivers precision at scale. His approach to product evangelism centers on conversation encouraging users to simply describe their needs in plain language and working with AI to handle the refinement.

Connect with Jeff & Perigon

Perigon Website: https://www.goperigon.com

LinkedIn (Jeff Lurie):https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffry-lurie/

Episode Overview

In this episode recorded at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Ryan sits down with Johnny Ayers, CEO of Socure, to discuss the evolving challenges of identity verification, fraud prevention, and trust in an age of AI-powered deepfakes and digital doppelgangers.

Key quotes

"The ability to discern between a human and a video feed, two years ago, you could see it with a naked eye. You can't see it anymore."

"It's surprising that more folks haven't talked about how and when and where you can trust a counterparty on the internet."

"A lot of AI is just creating average, right? It's creating stories that already exist. It's creating facts that, you know, humanity already knows. And that there's not a lot of creative breakthroughs."

Themes discussed:

Ayers shares insights on:

• The trade-offs between moving fast and ensuring accuracy when building mission-critical systems

• Why the internet's trust problem may become the defining conversation of 2026 and 2027.

• The ease with which anyone can create digital twins and voice clones

• The surprising lack of conversation at Davos about trust on the internet

• Age verification requirements

• The difference between high-stakes algorithms (KYC, AML) and experimental AI applications

• Extensive testing frameworks for facial biometrics and accessibility

• Testing for racial, age, and geographic biases before production deployment

• When companies should leverage external partners vs. building internally

• The value of unique data assets that see consumer behavior at scale

• Combining institutional insights with third-party expertise for optimal decisions

• Setting up agents correctly with degrees of freedom and autonomy to become "maestros of our agentic orchestra"

• Human traffic to machine traffic ratios shifting from 1:2 to 1:90

• AI's tendency to create "average" content based on existing information

• The continued importance of creative breakthroughs and novel patents

• Areas where human ingenuity remains irreplaceable

• Fraud proliferation across banking, lending, insurance, and government

• Workforce fraud: fake employees, resumes, and interviews

More about Socure: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/financial-services/our-insights/a-question-of-identity-talking-with-socures-johnny-ayers

More about Ayers:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnyayers/

Episode Summary: In this compelling conversation, Nitin Mittal shares insights from his unique position as the AI strategy leader across Deloitte's global operations.

From scaling AI implementations across Fortune 500 companies to navigating the rapid evolution from predictive AI to generative AI, Nitin discusses the practical realities of enterprise AI adoption. He explores the critical importance of trust frameworks, the emerging role of agentic AI, and why he believes we're entering a transformative period where AI will fundamentally reshape how organizations operate and compete.

Key quotes

"Trust is not just a nice-to-have in AI — it's the foundation. Without it, even the most sophisticated AI system will fail to deliver value."

"We've moved from asking 'Can AI do this?' to 'How quickly can we scale AI to do this across our entire organization?'"

"The organizations that will win with AI aren't necessarily those with the best technology, but those with the best change management and cultural readiness."

"Agentic AI represents a fundamental shift—we're moving from AI as a tool to AI as a colleague."

Top themes

1. Trust is foundational - Organizations must establish robust trust frameworks before scaling AI

2. Culture drives adoption - Technology alone isn't enough; successful AI transformation requires cultural change

3. Generative AI is transformative - The shift from predictive to generative AI represents a step-change in enterprise capabilities

4. Agentic AI is emerging - Autonomous AI agents will be the next major wave of innovation

5. Change management matters - The human side of AI transformation often determines success or failure

   
   

About the guest

• Career path from engineering to leading global AI strategy at Deloitte

• Transition from traditional consulting to AI-focused leadership

• Nitin works with Fortune 500 companies to navigate the complexities of enterprise AI adoption. His focus on trustworthy AI and practical implementation has made him a sought-after voice on the future of AI in business.

  Nitin Mittal on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/nitinmittal0101

  Deloitte AI Institute - deloitte.com

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In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath interviews Umesh Sachdev, CEO of Uniphore, live from the World Economic Forum in Davos. As the leader of a company serving over 2,000 customers globally, Umesh shares critical insights about the shift from AI experimentation to real business impact in 2026. The conversation explores how C-suite leaders are moving beyond the novelty of GPUs and LLMs to focus on outcome-as-a-service models, the importance of cost optimization across different AI use cases, and why the pace of decision-making has become the defining factor separating AI leaders from laggards.Key TakeawaysThe Era of AI Pilots is Over: Outcomes Matter NowIn 2026, the conversation has shifted from which GPU or LLM to use to what business transformation AI delivers. Companies that have figured out how to use AI as a growth enabler are starting to break away from the pack. One Size Does Not Fit All in AIDifferent use cases require different AI architectures. A real-time call center assistant needs sub-second response times with high-capacity GPUs, while CFO automation tasks can tolerate three-minute responses using smaller models on lower-capacity hardware. The key is matching infrastructure costs to the specific outcome required, rather than applying a uniform approach across all AI initiatives.AI Agents Must Work Within Existing WorkflowsThe thinking has evolved: companies need consistency for tasks repeated thousands of times daily. The 2026 breakthrough is making AI agents work reliably within current business structures rather than forcing organizational redesign.Open, Sovereign Architecture is Non-NegotiableClients demand flexibility to avoid vendor lock-in and the ability to adapt as new innovations emerge. More critically, especially outside the US, geopolitical developments are driving demand for sovereign AI architectures that ensure access cannot be cut off by any single government action. Speed of Decision-Making Defines AI LeadershipThe traditional playbook of research, analysis, and committee-based decisions is being discarded. CEOs across Fortune 500 companies recognize that moving at the speed of AI is essential to satisfy investors and Wall Street. The gap between companies that can execute with agility and those that cannot is widening dramatically.Chapter Timestamps[00:00] The Davos Reality Check: AI ROI in 2026[01:16] From Pilots to Business Transformation[01:34] Outcome-as-a-Service Business Model[02:03] Matching AI Architecture to Use Cases[03:00] Workflow and Organizational Design[04:25] Uniphore’s Product Roadmap and Platform Strategy[06:21] From Novelty to Business Basics[07:00] Leadership in the AI Revolution[08:30] Bringing the Workforce Along[09:37] Humans, Agents, and Sustainable Jobs[11:43] Near-Term Job Displacement vs Long-Term OpportunitiesAbout the GuestUmesh Sachdev is the CEO of Uniphore, a global AI platform company serving over 2,000 enterprise customers. Under his leadership, Uniphore has developed the Business AI Cloud, an open and sovereign platform that delivers enterprise-grade AI solutions with a focus on business outcomes rather than technical specifications. The platform runs multiple types of compute and LLMs, offering clients the flexibility to choose their technology components while maintaining security, scalability, and sovereignty.Connect with Umesh & UniphoreUniphore Website: https://www.uniphore.comAbout AI Leadership Lab

AI Leadership Lab interviews C-suite leaders about their AI journeys, covering what's working, where they're getting stuck, how they pivot, and the lessons they take from the losses.Host: Ryan HeathWebsite: RyanHeathConsulting.comResources MentionedUniphore Business AI Cloud - Open and sovereign AI platform that encompasses multiple types of compute and LLMs, delivering enterprise-grade security and scalability - https://www.uniphore.com

In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath sits down with Philip Rathle, Chief Technology Officer at Neo4j, to explore how graph databases are revolutionizing AI infrastructure and enterprise knowledge systems.

Philip reveals why understanding the relationships between data points is more powerful than having all the facts, and how companies like Google built trillion-dollar businesses on graph algorithms. From explaining knowledge graphs in plain language to discussing how graph-based retrieval can make AI more trustworthy and explainable, this conversation delivers actionable insights for leaders seeking to build more effective AI systems.

Takeaways

Relationships Matter More Than Facts

Understanding connections between data points often reveals more than the data itself. Philip demonstrates this with a striking example: knowing how friends-of-friends-of-friends behave is a better predictor of someone's behavior than having comprehensive facts about that individual person. This principle applies across business contexts, from customer 360 systems to organizational analysis.

The Real vs. Declared Org Chart

Graph technology can reveal an organization's true power structure by analyzing email patterns, Slack messages, and information flows. Companies are using this to identify single points of failure—like one person receiving all questions on a critical topic—and to facilitate warm introductions by mapping who knows whom across company boundaries.

Graph RAG Delivers Better Results with Less

By combining knowledge graphs with language models, companies are achieving superior answers while using two-thirds less data in context windows. This "graph RAG" approach queries a knowledge graph first, then feeds only the most relevant results to the model, resulting in faster responses, lower costs, and reduced energy consumption.

AI Systems Need Knowledge Layers, Not Just Language Models

Language models alone have fatal flaws for enterprise use: they hallucinate, lack company-specific data, operate as black boxes, and can't discern what information is appropriate for which purpose. Successful AI implementations complement LLMs with knowledge graphs that provide exact, explainable results while maintaining the context and causality that business users understand.

Explainability is the Path to Trust and Adoption

Graph-based systems enable accountability by providing traceable answers.

Timestamps

[00:00] Introduction

[01:12] Philip's journey from consulting to graph databases

[04:00] Facebook and Google as graph pioneers

[05:18] What is a knowledge graph?

[07:44] The true org chart: mapping real power structures

[09:30] Making AI more explainable and trustworthy

[14:13] Build vs. buy considerations for graph technology

[16:07] How graphs will reshape AI infrastructure

[18:08] Graph RAG and the future of AI applications

[20:00] Human impact: accountability and agency in AI

About the Guest

Philip Rathle is the Chief Technology Officer at Neo4j, a company that has been pioneering graph database technology and knowledge graphs for AI applications. Philip's career began in consulting, where he quickly became convinced that data serves as a mirror of business operations — the better your data, the better handle you have on your business. He built United Airlines' first passenger 360 system.

Connect with Philip & Neo4j

Neo4j Website: https://neo4j.com

LinkedIn: Search for Philip Rathle, CTO at Neo4j

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Episode Overview

In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath speaks with Pari Parchi, Founder and CEO of Panorama Aero, about the critical infrastructure challenges facing America's airspace.

With the US still operating on World War II-era radar systems while drones proliferate and autonomous flight technology advances, Pari reveals where the private sector may need to take more airspace management into its own hands. From the regulatory gridlock preventing counter-drone technology to the looming pilot shortage forcing autonomous solutions, this conversation exposes the urgent tensions between technological capability and outdated oversight systems.

Key Takeaways

America's Airspace Runs on World War II Technology

U.S. airspace management still relies on infrastructure dating to World War II, with radar systems and radio control as the foundation. Most aircraft landings remain VFR (visual flight rules), meaning pilots land by sight rather than automated systems. Since the 2003 ATC NextGen bill aimed at modernization, only 16% of initiatives have been completed.

The Drone Regulation Paradox

If someone flies a drone into your backyard to look through your windows, shooting it down is illegal — but the drone operator usually faces no penalty. This regulatory gap, primarily under Federal Communications Commission jurisdiction, leaves Americans vulnerable to privacy violations and potential security threats. The U.S. is up to two years behind Ukraine, Israel, and China in drone and counter-drone technology development, partly because we're not dealing with these threats daily.

The Private Sector Will Lead Airspace Security

With federal agencies stretched thin and regulatory changes moving slowly, private sector organizations are developing their own airspace protection systems. Companies are deploying counter-drone sensors to protect critical infrastructure, airports, public events, and private property. While they may not be able to shoot down unauthorized drones, they can identify operators, track license plates, and locate individuals for enforcement action.

The Pilot Shortage Will Force Autonomous Flight

At $1,000 to $1,500 per day, human pilot costs for the smallest aircraft can be economically infeasible: think four- or six-seater eVTOL vehicles and flying cars. The global pilot shortage is therefore increasingly the inevitability of autonomous flight. The transition will likely start with reducing commercial aircraft from two pilots to one, with AI serving as a "backseat driver" co-pilot.

Humans and Machines See the Airspace Differently

While AI can handle routine flight paths, human pilots provide irreplaceable value during emergencies, mechanical failures, and unexpected weather conditions. Having physical presence in the aircraft versus ground-based command and control is like attending the Super Bowl in person versus watching on TV.

Special Mission Aircraft Protect More Than We Realize

Turboprop aircraft and business jets serve critical public safety functions: surveillance, reconnaissance, mapping, medevac, and firefighting. These "special mission" or "multi-mission" aircraft use the airframe as a technology chassis, implementing specialized equipment for essential operations. The complexity and cost of maintaining these assets is widely underestimated.

About the Guest

Pari Parchi and Panorama Aero specialize in the acquisition and management of specialized aerospace assets. Through defense, aerospace, and early-stage investing experience, Pari brings a unique global perspective to airspace management challenges, having lived and worked across four continents.

Panorama Aero focuses on special mission and multi-mission aircraft — turboprop aircraft and business jets modified for specific purposes including surveillance, reconnaissance, mapping, medevac, firefighting, and other critical operations.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/pariparchi

Company: panorama.aero

Episode Overview

In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath sits down with Ryan Steelberg, CEO of Veritone, to explore the practical realities of deploying AI in enterprises. With a deep history in ad tech and in structuring previously unstructured audio and video data, Steelberg offers a grounded perspective on AI adoption that cuts through the hype. From discussing the critical importance of data infrastructure to sharing insights on ROI measurement and the mistakes companies make when integrating AI, this conversation provides essential guidance for leaders who want AI solutions that actually work—not just shiny marketing promises.

Key Takeaways

Focus Data Infrastructure, Forget AI Magic

Most organizations struggle with basic data management and cloud migration before they can meaningfully apply AI. Companies must understand and embrace their data journey first—there's no skipping this step, regardless of how advanced the AI tools promise to be.

AI is a Tool, Not a Solution

When evaluating AI products, redact every mention of "AI" from the marketing literature and ask: why are you buying this software? The AI is just a component, like an engine in a car. Focus on whether the solution satisfies your well-defined needs, not whether it's labeled as "next generation" or "future proof."

Track Everything to Improve Everything

Smart AI deployment requires comprehensive tracking of how users interact with applications. This data reveals whether bottlenecks stem from the AI model itself or the application layer, enabling companies to improve both the technology and the workflow continuously.

Customized ROI Metrics Matter

ROI metrics must be tailored to specific use cases and business models. What drives value for a sports organization (speed to market for content) differs radically from what matters to a media company (ad revenue optimization), even when using the same technology stack.

Combine Experience with Fresh Perspective

Organizations need both veterans who understand traditional processes and newcomers who organically embrace AI tools, and communicate naturally with data.

Regulated Environments Require Specific AI Approaches

In secure or air-gapped environments like Department of Defense networks, you cannot invoke third-party AI models. Everything must be containerized and deployable within the secure environment.

Key Quotes

"Imagine taking a piece of marketing literature and redacting any word that mentions AI. Why are you buying this software solution?"

"Don't ever throw away your ore. You don't know where the gold or diamonds are gonna be materialized or processed through."

Chapter Timestamps

[00:00] Veritone's AI journey from ad tech origins

[02:04] Bringing structure to unstructured data

[04:02] Deploying AI in regulated industries

[05:17] Product roadmap evolution and customer feedback

[08:00] Common mistakes in AI integration

[10:06] Skills and upskilling challenges

[12:25] Measuring ROI in AI deployments

[16:00] Surprising customer use cases

[21:00] Smart questions for evaluating AI products

About the Guest

Ryan Steelberg is the CEO of Veritone. Steelberg's journey into AI began with a fundamental problem: how to target ads against audio and video content in an increasingly organic media ecosystem. This challenge led Veritone to develop sophisticated capabilities in transcription, object detection, and machine vision to bring structure to unstructured media content.

Under Steelberg's leadership, Veritone's major clients include NBCUniversal, iHeartMedia, the US Tennis Association, CNBC, and the Department of Defense.

Connect with Ryan & Veritone

https://www.veritone.com

https://linkedin.com/in/ryansteelberg/

About AI Leadership Lab

AI Leadership Lab interviews C-suite leaders about their AI journeys, covering what's working, where they're getting stuck, how they pivot, and the lessons they take from the losses.

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In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath sits down with Dan Neely, CEO and co-founder of Vermillio, an AI platform for protecting and monetizing intellectual property.

Recorded live from Web Summit in Lisbon, this conversation tackles the critical challenge facing every creator in the AI age: how to protect your likeness and work and capitalize on new monetization opportunities.

From explaining the concept of likeness rights to discussing neural fingerprinting technology, Dan offers practical insights for any creator, IP owner (or organization that needs to use them) on how to navigate the intersection of AI, intellectual property, and co-creation.

Key Takeaways

Likeness is the New Frontier of IP Protection

Most creators focus on protecting their output (music, films, scripts etc) but overlook their likeness: their image, voice, and name.

In an AI world where anyone can prompt "create a song in the style of [creator name]," likeness becomes a critical asset requiring protection. This isn't just for famous creators; it matters for every person whose likeness can be synthetically recreated.

Protection gives options for Monetization

Once you've protected your likeness, you gain complete control over whether and how to monetize it. You can choose never to allow its use, or you can participate in the economics of AI-generated content. The key insight is seeing that this can deliver passive income — even at a tiny royalty rate — when you consider there are across trillions of AI transactions.

The Industry Needs Third-Party Infrastructure

Traditional fingerprinting and watermarking don't work in today's AI world. Neural fingerprinting technology offers an alternative, especially when it can detect what percentage of someone's IP exists in AI outputs, from 1% to 100%.

Studios, Platforms, and Creators Face Unclear Responsibility

The industry is still debating who bears responsibility for protecting talent: Is it studios who hire actors, platforms that enable content creation, or individual creators themselves?

Likeness rights have traditionally only been negotiated for specific projects (like marketing a movie), creating complexity as AI enables infinite use cases. The market is currently in a "land grab" phase similar to early internet advertising.

Co-Creation Will Democratize Creative Expression

The most exciting development is enabling fans to co-create with the content and creators they love—at scale and with proper licensing. This democratizes creativity, allowing people who couldn't previously draw or make music to create in amazing ways, while ensuring creators participate in the economic value generated by their likeness and work.

Chapter Timestamps

[00:00] First steps for protecting creative work and likeness

[02:33] Deep fakes and AI disruption with Sora

[04:42] Monetizing creative work beyond traditional models

[07:40] The maturity curve for understanding likeness rights

[10:03] Trace ID system and neural fingerprinting technology

[12:42] Advice for those overwhelmed by AI choices

[15:18] What's exciting about the future of AI co-creation

About the Guest

Dan Neely is the CEO and co-founder of Vermillio, a leading rights management platform that protects creators' work and likeness. His company has developed neural fingerprinting technology that can detect IP ingredients in AI-generated outputs in any given creation.

He has worked directly with major artists like David Gilmour of Pink Floyd to allow fans to engage with their favorite creators in licensed, economically fair ways.

Connect with Dan Neely & Vermillio

https://time.com/7012738/dan-neely/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielneely/

About AI Leadership Lab

AI Leadership Lab interviews C-suite leaders about their AI journeys, covering what's working, where they're getting stuck, how they pivot, and the lessons they take from the losses.

Host: Ryan Heath

Website: RyanHeathConsulting.com