In this episode of A Fiercer Delight, Matt sits down with Craig Brumfield for a wide-ranging conversation about the quiet, repeatable practices that keep joy and hope within reach. They talk about Craig’s deep love of home (a true Columbodian), how travel can be great but coming back is the real reset, and why daily rhythms matter when life starts feeling chaotic.

Craig shares his “golden hour” ritual at work: journaling, planning the day, daily gratitude, and unhurried conversations before the inbox and stress hit. They dig into why structure can be a form of peace, how small habits function like a “robe” you put on each day, and what it looks like to protect that kind of replenishment when schedules get thrown off.

You’ll also hear plenty of Craig’s signature references, from 80s music rabbit trails to “new boot goofing,” plus a highlight on grandparent joy. Craig opens up about being “G” to three grandkids, what that kind of love feels like, and why delight often shows up in ordinary places: your people, your routines, and your own backyard.

Licensed professional counselor Kelly Wright sits down to talk about what it means to carry other people’s pain without losing your own joy. From early days drowning in secondhand trauma to a pivotal moment at a Dan Allender conference, Kelly explains how she learned to set boundaries, do her own work, and stay grounded while walking with others through emotional and spiritual “death and resurrection.”

We talk Enneagram (she is an 8, I am probably a 9), why she loves it as a self-awareness tool, and how motivations shape the way we show up for people. Kelly shares why being near water is her “still waters” reset, how she has learned to actually prioritize replenishment, and the simple daily choices that keep her from sacrificing joy on the altar of productivity.

Kelly also tells the story of her quadriplegic brother-in-law Bentley, how his life and presence shaped their family, and what it looked like to walk through his sudden death with honesty, tears, laughter, and games around the table. Along the way we get into raising adult kids who still like each other, practicing real respect at home, and how to build a tribe where grief and joy can sit at the same table.

Matt sits down with Adam Canote for a spontaneous, joy-chasing hang that starts with a brand-new jingle and wanders into music, family, and everyday delight. Adam shares what growing up second of ten in a traveling bluegrass family taught him, why sibling voices blend the way they do, and how harmony and counterpoint make songs (and relationships) work. They swap Green Day and Pizza Hut nostalgia, debate zipper merges, confess app-ordering coffee hacks, and talk about noticing the journey rather than sprinting to the destination. It is loose, funny, and surprisingly practical! en-JOY!