Jeff and Susan are so grateful to have had 4 years of podcasting together. In this final episode, they reminisce about the interviews they've done and the good work that needs to continue in the future. Enjoy the episode!

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan get to speak with American novelist and memoirist, Marie Mutsuki Mockett, as well as Juston Wolgemuth who is a professional counselor now but was featured as a key character in one of Marie’s books back when he was a college student. That book is called American Harvest: God, Country, and Farming in the Heartland. American Harvest discusses grain production, religion, history, and the cultural divide in the United States, and it begins with a question around food: “Why do city dwellers (who are stereotypically disconnected from the land) want organic food while farmers (who are stereotypically more religious and science-averse) prefer genetically modified crops?” Enjoy the episode.

In today's episode, Jeff and Susan have the privilege of speaking with Isaac Saul who is a politics reporter and the founder of the award-winning media organization, Tangle. Isaac grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania which is one of the most politically divided counties in all of America. He has lived, studied, traveled, and written all over the U.S. and the world. Enjoy the episode!