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  • West Chicago Police's Approach to ICE Enforcement
    Dec 15 2025
    Below is my ChatGPT-generated, Laura-approved summary of our conversation with West Chicago Chief of Police Colin Fleury. Our biggest takeaways: 1) Angry people driving out of—or into—their driveways during a parade is one of Fleury’s bigger fears about bringing them back; 2) Despite requests, ICE has provided no list to West Chicago of who they are arresting, why, or whether targets have criminal histories.—LFKey Topics Covered — Parade Conversation* The chief’s background organizing large-scale events and how that shapes his safety expectations.* Why parades create unique risks: long footprint, many uncontrolled access points, vehicle hazards, and crowd unpredictability.* Staffing limits at the department and how manpower affects what can be safely covered.* The need for clear participant check-in, assigned slots, and no last-minute additions.* Insurance and alcohol-use requirements for certain participant groups (e.g., riders).* Past incidents the chief referenced—such as animal-related injuries and drivers bypassing closures—that inform current caution.* The role of trained volunteers (CERT/ESDA) for staging, barricades, and first aid.* The importance of confirming dates early so the department can adjust schedules and avoid staffing conflicts.* A collaborative but safety-first tone: supportive of the event if proper controls and planning are in place.Key Topics Covered — ICE Conversation1. Training & Department Procedures (how are West Chicago police officers trained to react to ICE?)* Officers document ICE encounters and provide warnings to federal agents who are violating city resolutions that city property cannot be used from civil immigration enforcement.* City-wide directive: any staff member encountering ICE is to alert the highest-ranking police member.* Officers respond when residents report unknown individuals who may be ICE. Residents can always call 911 if they spot a suspicious vehicle and responders can let them know if the vehicle is a concern. * Local law enforcement vehicles can be distinguished from ICE vehicles by their license plates, which have letters “MP” on side. 2. The TRUST Act / “CARES Act” Confusion* Fleury frequently refers to “CARES,” but the policy he describes aligns with:* Illinois TRUST Act (2017)* Way Forward Act (2021)* Attorney General Kwame Raoul’s guidance restricting cooperation with civil immigration enforcement* Key restriction: local police cannot assist ICE in civil immigration enforcement (e.g., information sharing, detainers).3. Chief Fleury’s Central Claims* Communication restrictions by the state have created serious safety issues.* ICE is operating without sufficient local intelligence, making operations chaotic.* Local police are “caught in the middle”—unable to help ICE but unable to obstruct.* Public misidentifies undercover units, fire vehicles, or unmarked cars as ICE.* Community trust is eroding due to visible tensions and crowd clashes.* ICE has provided no list of who they are arresting, why, or whether targets have criminal histories.4. Examples Chief Fleury Shares* ICE use of spray during Thorntons gas station encounter.* Allegations that an undercover (non-ICE) vehicle was rammed by someone who assumed they were ICE.* A local person was chased and harassed in an apartment complex because he was mistaken for ICE.* Prior town hall meetings where residents expressed support for deporting violent offenders.5. Community Reporting Options* Tip411 system.* Calling 911 for verification of suspicious vehicles or activity.6. Perimeter Problems* State law prevents local police from creating a barrier around ICE operations.* According to Fleury, this increases likelihood of clashes between ICE and crowds.7. Transparency Concerns* Chief Fleury says ICE has given zero information to West Chicago about:* who is being arrested* whether arrests are criminal or civil* what charges people have* Only one confirmed case: an individual at Thorntons who filed a police report. He was a U.S. citizen.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Chief Colin Fleury02:56 Chief Fleury’s Background and Career Path05:51 Challenges of Organizing Parades14:47 Police Department’s Role in Immigration Enforcement36:23 Challenges of Communication with ICE39:13 Public Safety and Trust Issues40:47 The Impact of ICE Operations on Local Communities Get full access to 60185 Podcast at 60185.substack.com/subscribe
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    59 min
  • Why 60185?
    Dec 8 2025
    May 6, 2025, 12:15 amI (Liuan) received an email from Laura with the title “Hear me out.” We had just survived an epic swearing-in ceremony for West Chicago’s new mayor Daniel Bovey and several newly-elected city council members. Dan had warned us there might be some fireworks, but I don’t think anybody in the audience was ready for the level of conflict that took place. Laura wrote: “I just recorded a 22 minute Marco Polo for a handful of friends explaining everything that happened tonight.“That’s… a podcast. “I am going to start one purely for WeGo residents — possibly time limited — to process all of this stuff. I think podcasts are so much more constructive than social media. People are always asking what is going on… this is how to fill them in.”The first recordingI sat in Laura’s dining room later that day, admiring the blue and white porcelain dishes on the wall. I thought, “No biggie, just talking with a friend over tea and sending it to a few other friends.” Laura has podcasting experience from previous jobs, and somehow managed to drop the first episode about an hour after we recorded it. In the first couple days, we got over 100 downloads. We were expecting, maybe, 15. There was definitely an information gap here that people have been hungry to fill. Since thenWe’ve had Attorney Jeff Jacobson, Mayor Dan Bovey, Maria Correa and José (Pepe) Gutierrez from Casa Michoacán, Jonathan Wolfe from We Go for the People, Winfield Township Trustee Rebecca Holmes, and several aldermen on the show. When we can, we record episodes in both English and Spanish.While social media can be a helpful place to get the latest scoop, our community needs more than hot takes and rumor mills. A podcast format gives listeners a chance to go deeper into a topic, getting past surface-level arguments that fuel an us-them mentality and truly understanding where decision-makers are coming from and the issues on the table. It’s not us-them. It’s all of us. We all have a place here in West Chicago, and it’s time to sit down to an honest, respectful conversation. Moving forwardWe started the podcast specifically explain what happened on May 5 for our friends and neighbors, but with a larger purpose in mind: our community cares a lot—and has a lot going on. Our goal was (and is) to provide easy-to-digest updates on West Chicago’s taxing bodies, especially our city council. After overwhelming interest in our episodes so far, we’re planning to keep this up! You can expect episodes every few weeks or more frequently if we’re feeling ambitious. We’re busy working moms, so this is a side project for us. We’ll cover major city council decisions, interspersed with news on township, school district, and park district happenings, and anything else that’s of interest to West Chicago residents. Subscribe below to get an email in your inbox every time a new episode drops. We’ll also post informative tidbits that don’t make it into an episode here on this Substack page. Have ideas for topics? Comment below. If you think our work is valuable, would you become a paid subscriber? We’re looking for 20 committed residents to become paid subscribers at $5 a month. That will help us pay for our graphic designer (Joey Waltz) who made our beautiful banner and logo, as well as tech subscriptions and other costs here and there. And honestly, maybe a cup of coffee every once in a while. And please share this with your friends and neighbors. We want everyone to be part of the conversation. You—each and every one of you—are what make West Chicago the quirky and wonderful town that we all love. Thanks for reading 60185 Podcast! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.P.S. A couple of updates since we recorded this episode several months ago—* Liuan and Matt’s children’s book, My South American Classroom, has launched!! Find it here!* Heather Niziolek of The West Chicago Voice has concluded the platform, and Merle Burleigh’s column on the city website will not continue after this year… so we’re feeling even more committed to keeping this podcast and Substack active going forward. Get full access to 60185 Podcast at 60185.substack.com/subscribe
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    43 min
  • 2026 Budget with Ald. Dan Beebe
    Dec 1 2025

    Happy Cyber Monday! Buy local please!

    Ward 1 Alderman Dan Beebe describes the 2026 budget proposal that will receive a vote tonight, December 1, 2025. We catch up on what is happening to the grocery tax (!!), explain sewer and water rate increases and why West Chicago treats its own water, and hear the story of how Dan got onto the city council (he wasn’t appointed!).

    We also discussed a couple of things I’m still grappling with:

    * Why is the council so… quiet? We joke often about how long the meetings are now, but it’s because they used to be 10 minutes, with very little public comment. Now we see lots of public comments, but still less conversation among council members than I would expect. Is it possible that the council before April 1 was borderline rubber-stampy? Which leads into my next question:

    * Do we rely more than necessary on consultants? I’ve been thinking about this a lot in the last few months, both in the context of the City and the Library (where I am a board member).

    On the one hand, consultants provide institutional knowledge that you just don’t get from a group of 15 ever-changing volunteers. At the state and federal levels this is provided by staff and (gulp) lobbyists, who have been around for decades and may have deeper knowledge and time on an issue than either staff or electeds. Dan Beebe also explains to us in this episode that staff simply just don’t have time to do some of the tasks that we need done, like modernizing city code.

    HOWEVER: Dan also told us that in his time with the city (on commissions and on the council), he has watched the city pay consultants to develop at least 3 plans to revitalize the downtown. Then there’s the 20 year old Strategic Vision that basically went untouched. In April, we overwhelmingly heard a direction from voters to work on our downtown—but here we are budgeting even more money for consultants to advise us how to do that.

    As a resident, I’d love to not pour more money into consultants when we haven’t tried ideas from the last ones yet. And I’m not talking about real estate deals with bad timing. How about basic recommendations for improving downtown? How about trying out the idea in one of our consulting plans to allow residents to build separate mother-in-law suites in town? This would address our housing shortage while giving residents more chances to make ends meet in our challenging economy.

    What do you think? Am I off base here? If you’re a member of the council or city staff, would you be willing to come on the show to explain to me why we need even more consultants? 💙

    P.S. We sponsored a soccer team! Eusebian is a longstanding outreach program at New Life Bilingual Church in West Chicago.

    Cover photo courtesy of the West Chicago Voice. Alderman Dan Beebe (far right) speaks with protestors in spring 2025 at city hall.



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    53 min
  • The Full Al Hallett Story
    Nov 10 2025

    Alderman Al Hallett joins us for an open conversation about his childhood, his time in Vietnam, how he ended up in West Chicago and on the City Council, and what he plans to do in the next 2027 consolidated election.

    Trigger warning: this episode mentions warfare, mass killings, and PTSD.



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    53 min
  • La Situación con ICE en West Chicago
    Oct 10 2025

    Concejala Alcantar-Garcia habla de cómo la aumentación de actividad de la migra ha afectado la comunidad de West Chicago, los derechos de personas que están detenidos por ICE, y los recursos comunitarios disponibles para los que tienen miedo de salir.

    * Alrededor de 19 personas han sido detenido por agentes de ICE desde 15 de Septiembre

    * Llame al 855-435-7693 para informar sobre avistamientos del ICE. Se trata de la línea de atención telefónica de apoyo a las familias establecida a través de la Coalición de Illinois por los Derechos de los Inmigrantes y Refugiados.

    * La policía de West Chicago no pueden involucrarse en las actividades de ICE, para apoyarles o para pararles.

    * Hay esfuerzos de hacer legislación en el nivel estatal y federal haciendo que agentes de ICE no puedan usar máscaras.

    * Concejala Alcantar-Garcia está parte de conversaciones sobre la posibilidad de prevenir el uso de propiedades como el Ayuntamiento o la Estación de Policía local por agentes federales, para mantener estas ubicaciones seguro para residentes.



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    23 min
  • Making the Sausage with Ald. Matt Myers
    Sep 8 2025

    Things we learned from Matt—


    • Kamila Cakes’ owner is a TikTok influencer!
    • Reducing the barriers small business face in West Chicago
    • Of the 118 city staff in West Chicago, how many work with businesses? (Fun fact: we have 51 police officers and 44 public works staff—that's 80% of the city employees)
    • Reviving a downtown business alliance for West Chicago
    • The financial reserves that West Chicago keeps on hand, always—and what that means for the yearly budget
    • Does Matt know what happened to the 13-14M Kerr-McGee funds? (spoiler alert: nobody does)
    • What makes Ward 7 so unique
    • The grocery tax vs. sales tax debate
    • The NEWLY forming Downtown Revitalization Commission—APPLY HERE.
    • Why the long meetings in the Bovey Era are a sign of a good meeting.
    • What we should be looking out for in the next few months


    Plus, Laura briefly recaps the Sept. 2 council meeting—both the grocery tax and sales tax were tabled until the Sept. 15 meeting.

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    55 min
  • Ald. Denise Carreto-Muñoz on the Pledge of Allegiance
    Aug 25 2025

    During the August 4, 2025 West Chicago City Council meeting, a meeting where Mayor Bovey was absent, Ald. Alton Hallett—a Vietnam war veteran—publicly questioned Ald. Carreto-Muñoz on why she was standing during the Pledge of Allegiance rather than putting her hand on her heart. He questioned her on a number of things—including what the 13 red strips on the flag mean—prompting a quick reaction not from other members of the council, but from the public.


    We play the audio from that interaction, and then talk to Denise about what was going through her head in that moment, what Ald. Hallett said to her after the meeting, and what it's like being one of the youngest members of the city council. She talks about her decision to run for office, and recaps the 'backyard chicken' ordinance (seomthing Ald. Hallett also voted for, despite vows in past meetings). We also cover the question of whether and which lawyers would be paid for their services to the city between May and August, 2025.

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    42 min
  • La concejala Denise Carreto-Muñoz habla sobre el Juramento a la Bandera
    Aug 25 2025

    Durante la reunión del Concejo Municipal de West Chicago del 4 de agosto de 2025, en la que el alcalde Bovey estuvo ausente, el concejal Alton Hallett, veterano de la guerra de Vietnam, cuestionó públicamente a la concejala Carreto-Muñoz por qué se limitó a permanecer de pie durante el Juramento a la Bandera y no se puso la mano sobre el corazón. La cuestionó sobre varios aspectos, incluyendo el significado de las 13 franjas rojas de la bandera, lo que provocó una rápida reacción, no de los demás concejales, sino del público.


    Hablamos con Denise sobre lo que pasaba por su mente en ese momento, lo que le dijo el concejal Hallett después de la reunión y cómo es ser una de las concejalas más jóvenes. Habla sobre su decisión de postularse y recapitula la ordenanza sobre las gallinas de traspatio (algo por lo que la concejala Hallett también votó, a pesar de sus promesas en reuniones anteriores). También abordamos la cuestión de si se pagaría a los abogados por sus servicios a la ciudad entre mayo y agosto de 2025, y cuáles serían esos abogados.

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    30 min