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  • I Said “Copaganda”? My Bad, Here’s A Fire Extinguisher
    Jan 21 2026

    Street reality beats press releases every time. We dive into the messy, human side of policing—where legal standards, public expectations, and officer judgment collide—and show how better habits can actually rebuild trust. From First Amendment audits to a high‑stress taser incident that turns into a rapid rescue, we unpack what went right, what went wrong, and how clear language plus sound tactics prevent small encounters from becoming big lawsuits.

    We lay out the nuts and bolts of lawful contact: when you can ask for ID, when you can demand it, and why the best officers start by talking to the complainant, not the camera. We dissect a sidewalk arrest that spiraled on stacked charges, then contrast it with a case where officers instantly pivoted from pursuit to lifesaving, grabbed a fire extinguisher, and re‑established control without losing composure. Add in crowd control lessons—don’t isolate, pick true agitators, pull arrests behind the line—and you get a practical blueprint for safer streets and cleaner reports.

    We also wade into ICE coordination and federal‑local friction. Our stance is simple: communicate early, vet targets with local knowledge, prioritize violent offenders, and set perimeters without forcing local officers into federal arrests. That approach protects communities and reduces pointless outrage. Finally, we look at speech and overreach through a meme‑arrest case and talk tech: real‑time crime centers, license plate readers, and drones. These tools need guardrails—short retention windows, audit trails, transparent policy—or they’ll cost more trust than they save.

    If you value straight talk, real training takeaways, and honest accountability, you’ll feel at home here. Hit follow, share this with a friend who loves a good policy debate, and leave a review with your biggest question—we’ll tackle it on a future show.

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  • Force Science: Is It Police Jargon or Real Science?
    Jan 14 2026

    Special guest Von Kliem from Force Science, co-host Banning Sweatland, and I are live in-studio. No agenda, just shooting the 💩. The line between what the Constitution allows, what policy prefers, and what humans can do under stress is where the mess—and the truth—lives. We go there. Starting with the Minnesota debate and Barnes v. Felix, we unpack how totality of the circumstances actually works, why “officer-created jeopardy” is a shaky legal anchor, and how courts weigh intrusion against government interests without turning tactics into constitutional mandates.

    From street-level decisions to courtroom standards, we get precise about probable cause vs reasonable suspicion, consent during knock-and-talks, and how a single detail at a door can flip authority. Then we zoom into the human factor: why additional shots happen after a threat shifts, how fast the brain can—and can’t—stop, and why video evidence routinely misleads. If you’ve ever wondered why a freeze-frame can’t substitute for a first-person vantage point, this conversation spells it out.

    We widen the lens to federal-state friction, ICE operations, and where the Insurrection Act and Posse Comitatus actually fit. Cooperation and deconfliction protect people; performative standoffs don’t. On the tactics front, we get painfully honest about LVNR, batons, OC/CS, and the training gaps that matter more than people admit. A rapid bodycam breakdown of a stolen-car pursuit and ramp gunfire tests everything we’ve discussed in real time—risk, cover, communication, and the gravity of closing distance under fire.

    We close by looking ahead: drones and StarChase in pursuits, the trade-offs of remote tracking, and why clear, predictable standards plus human performance science are the foundation of honest accountability. If you’re a cop, a lawyer, or a curious citizen, you’ll leave with sharper tools to judge fast decisions fairly.

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  • Your Brain Is Not A GoPro, And That’s Why Courtrooms Get Videos Wrong
    Jan 7 2026

    A split‑second decision lives in a world your camera can’t fully see. That’s where we spend this episode, with Force Science’s Von Kliem guiding us through how the brain actually works under threat and what that means for accountability, policy, and courtroom truth.

    We start with the mission: honest accountability grounded in human performance. Von breaks down why perception, cognition, and environment shape both police and civilian choices, and how de‑escalation succeeds only when conditions allow it. From there, we dig into why bodycams aren’t eyes. Surveillance systems drop frames, bodycams distort angles and time, and a missing 0.56 seconds can erase a punch or a pre‑attack cue. You’ll hear a Montana case where video “proved” no swing, until a frame‑level analysis changed everything. We unpack the gap between deciding to fire and the moment a shot breaks, why warnings are “when feasible” and often not, and how asking for movement can invite danger.

    In court, opposing experts increasingly invoke “generally accepted practices” that aren’t real standards. We examine how that reframes the rules mid‑trial, how prosecutors should handle reasonable doubt ethically, and why juries deserve better than freeze‑frames and hindsight. We also walk through a real‑time bodycam review: a wrong‑way pursuit, a fleeing suspect waving a gun at drivers, and the principles that govern immediate threats. Along the way, you’ll learn why “don’t move” is the smarter command, how imputed knowledge from air support and dispatch matters, and why audio often tells more truth than video.

    If you carry a firearm, this conversation is a blueprint: invest in decision making, not just draw speed. Know the law of self‑defense, get insurance that stands by you before the facts look tidy, and train for recognition, avoidance, and control of your own attention. If you lead, legislate, or report, build processes that respect science: scrutinize video provenance, understand frame construction, and resist narratives that travel faster than facts. Subscrib

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  • Serial Killer, Pig Farm, And Police Grit
    Jan 7 2026

    A chance conversation set Jennifer Hyland on a path she never planned: from late‑20s recruit to deputy chief overseeing major crime, patrol, and the kind of cases that haunt even seasoned investigators. What she learned along the way isn’t the hero myth. It’s a set of grounded habits—judgment, restraint, and relentless investigation—that actually keep people safe and put predators behind bars.

    We start with the early years: the culture shock of patrol, the pressure to “prove” yourself, and the moment she stopped performing and started policing as herself. Jennifer explains why rookie placement matters more than tradition, how the RCMP’s one‑size‑fits‑all training falls short across remote and urban posts, and why the real superpower in policing is casework that survives court, not muscle that wins a moment. She walks us through the split‑second call to disengage when instincts say a stop is about to turn, and we compare the very different risk signals created by Canada–U.S. gun laws.

    Then we go deep on leadership. Jennifer was pushed into promotion by a tyrannical boss and built her command style in reaction to that harm: show up in briefing, credit frontline work, bridge patrol and detectives, and use bodycam video for learning, not just blame. Her most gripping account centers on Canada’s most infamous serial killer, Robert Pickton. As a patrol officer, she stopped him on the street while he hunted sex trade workers. Years later, her notes helped anchor testimony that tied the stop to a night of horrific violence. The takeaway is sobering: you don’t “win” cases with force—you win them with trust, documentation, and patience.

    Finally, Jennifer shares why she wrote Tight Rope. A colleague once told her she seemed “perfect,” and that illusion kept others from stepping up or seeking help. So she broke the spell, writing about the quiet forms of PTSD, the loneliness of command, and the heartbreak of handing in a badge even when the job has taken its pound of flesh. It’s not a tale of despair; it’s a practical call to b

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  • From Patrol To SWAT To Staccato: Training That Actually Works
    Dec 30 2025

    The best shooting you’ll ever see on a body‑worn camera looks deceptively calm. That kind of control doesn’t come from “stand still and pass the qual” culture—it comes from practical training that blends speed, accuracy, and judgment under stress. We sit down with Chris Palmer—retired Phoenix PD SWAT operator, academy firearms lead, and now part of Staccato’s training group—to unpack how departments can move from checkbox drills to performance that holds up on the street and in court.

    Chris takes us inside SWAT selection, life on a full‑time team, and the lessons that reshaped his teaching: most shootings involve movement before shots; everything is fast until officers regain control; and confidence is a community safety feature. We dig into the myths around “slow is smooth,” why time doesn’t create accuracy, and how training officers to recognize an acceptable sight picture at speed pays off when reality spikes. We also cover red dots on pistols—the index problem, faster learning for recruits, and why dots are a clarity tool rather than a crutch.

    Policy matters just as much as practice. Chris explains de‑escalation as an outcome, not a script; time‑distance‑cover as levers, not excuses; and duty‑to‑intervene language that sets clear expectations without assuming omniscience. Supervisors can use BWC to coach case law, handcuffing, and decision‑making before small misses become big headlines. And yes, we talk Staccato: what the HD platform changes, how a better trigger and design lower friction for learning, and why the company is investing heavily in open, modern law‑enforcement training rather than hype.

    If you care about safer officers, stronger communities, and shootings that withstand both review boards and public scrutiny, this conversation is your blueprint. Listen, share it with your training unit, and tell us: what’s the first upgrade your agency needs—movement reps, red dots, or supervisory follow‑through? If this helped, subscribe, rate, and leave a review so more listeners can find it.

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  • We Break Down How Poor Training, Not Bad Intent, Fuels Bad Policing And What To Fix First
    Dec 29 2025

    Training failures show up on camera long before intent does. That’s the uncomfortable truth we wrestle with as we unpack why officers who can pass a constitutional test still stumble on the street when emotions spike and decisions shrink to hundredths of a second. With Officer Jorge Lopez back in the chair, we go beyond blame and dig into fixes you can measure.

    We start with the human element: how stress “magnetizes” officers toward danger, why empathy is hard to simulate, and how the wrong FTO can turn a rookie cynical in four weeks. Then we get practical. VR is evolving past flat screens to full‑immersion, haptics, and branching scenarios that pressure‑test distance, cover, and tone. AI on bodycams is poised to surface department policy, state law, and translations in real time—recording the questions you ask and the logic you use. Drone first responder programs give “eyes on” in under a minute, buying the only commodity that truly boosts survivability: time.

    Two high‑stakes clips ground the talk. In a Walmart detention, a teen’s concealed pistol misfires at contact distance; the officer’s restraint and a bystander Marine’s control prevent a disaster and spotlight the cost of a poor pat‑down. In a hallway call, a suicidal subject with a knife sprints toward officers; commands collapse, and the priority of life takes over. We pull apart what went right and where training needs to adapt: holster discipline, obstacle use, disengagement, and scenario‑based constitutional drills that force choices under pressure, not just recitation in a classroom.

    We don’t dodge the tough policy questions either. Fixed “25‑foot” filming laws are brittle; “reasonable distance” tied to a clear marker is smarter. Case law like Pennsylvania v. Mims exists for officer safety, not convenience—abuse it and we’ll lose it. Transparency shouldn’t stop at patrol; bodycams shouldn’t mute, and courts should meet the same standard with smart redaction. The throughline is simple: better training beats tough talk. Build reps that blend law and tactic

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  • From Patrol To Pro: How Narcotics And Gang Units Train, Work, And Win
    Dec 21 2025

    You can spot a real cop’s education in the way they build a case, not just how they make a stop. We sit down with two seasoned pros who turned years in patrol, gangs, and narcotics into a clear, step-by-step blueprint for specialized work: how to get selected without the buddy system, how to train beyond “watch and learn,” and how to carry a case from probable cause to proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    We dig into the hiring signals that matter—bodycam audits from real weeks, not staged ride-alongs; 360 feedback from peers and those supervised; report samples that show articulation and judgment. Then we map the training path: drug ID and evolving slang, surveillance and countersurveillance, UC safety, entries, and the case law officers must master to survive cross-exam. On the gang side, you’ll get an inside look at a modern structure—enforcement, detectives, intel, and prevention—and how intel pushes timely forecasts to keep patrol from walking into “not your average loud party.”

    The craft pieces are practical and blunt: why plainclothes isn’t 5.11 pants and a posture, how to run safe, controlled stops with LPRs and cameras miles away from the heat, and why your network is more valuable than your gear. We talk about national information-sharing, smarter takedowns, and report writing that won’t crumble in court. Just as important, we cover how to talk to people without faking it—respect first, honest questions, and the consistency that builds cooperation over time.

    If you care about safer streets, better cases, and a career that lasts, this conversation delivers. Check out BS Narcotics for hands-on, active-duty-led training and details on their first annual Narcotics & Gangs conference (Nov 1–4, 2026, Central Texas). If this episode sharpened your edge, follow, share with your team, and leave a review so others can find it. Your feedback powers future episodes and better policing.

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  • Chalk, Tasers, And The Line Between Law And Sense
    Dec 20 2025

    Livestream chat, A gun goes click in a cramped Walmart loss prevention office—and everything that happens next becomes a quiet masterclass in officer safety, close-quarter decision-making, and restraint. We walk through the moment frame by frame: why a simple pat-down could have changed everything, how cooperation lulls even experienced cops into skipping steps, and why attacking the presented gun beat reaching for a holster when the room shrank to a few feet. Credit where it’s due: an alert LP employee and quick-thinking officers likely prevented a deadly outcome. The charges? Think attempted murder—and think about the chain of small choices that got them there.

    From high-stakes to head-scratching, we unpack calls that shouldn’t escalate. Sidewalk chalk that washes away isn’t a public safety crisis; it’s an opportunity to educate, warn, and move on. Same for plate frames and obstruction laws—if a reasonable person can read the state and number, straining the statute erodes trust and invites dropped cases. Sensible enforcement and clear laws do more for legitimacy than any press release. And when we talk about what truly protects kids, we draw a hard line: stop doxxing undercover units. Viral clout that outs ICAC teams doesn’t “expose” anything—it teaches predators what to avoid and puts children at risk.

    We also analyze a Florida taser clip with nuance: back probes, clear commands, and post-compliance de-escalation suggest policy alignment, but necessity depends on context—paraphernalia risk, ground surface, suspect history, and officer fitness all matter. The recruiting debate lands where it should: set rigorous, relevant standards and hold everyone to them. Command presence flows from training, judgment, and team tactics, not height alone. If you want better policing, push for clear statutes, realistic training, and hiring that prioritizes character and skill—and use your voice. Body cams, de-escalation, crisis response, and pursuit reforms didn’t appear out of nowhere; communities demanded them.

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