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Let’s start with a question we don’t ask often enough:
What if resistance isn’t the problem?

Chris and I push on a pretty common assumption in education; that resistance is something to manage, fix, or eliminate. I offer a reframe that’s shaped a lot of my own leadership: resistance is often a signal.

Engagement.
Unmet needs.
Something important trying to get our attention.

Chris takes it deeper, looking at what pushback usually points to beneath the surface, missing clarity, insufficient support, a lack of trust, or not enough voice. And together we name a few uncomfortable truths: compliance isn’t the goal, “shoulds” shut people down, and curiosity beats control every time.

Here’s the shift we’re inviting: instead of bracing against resistance, what if we listened to it?

Because resistance can be a compass. It can point leaders toward more responsive, more human, and ultimately more effective ways of working.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, frustrated, or worn down by pushback, this episode might change how you see it, and how you respond next time.

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