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  • De : Reni Eddo-Lodge
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Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race

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Lu par : Reni Eddo-Lodge
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    "I couldn't have a conversation with white folks about the details of a problem if they didn't want to recognise that the problem exists. Worse still was the white person who might be willing to entertain the possibility of said racism but still thinks we enter this conversation as equals. We didn't then, and we don't now." 

    In February 2014, Reni Eddo-Lodge posted an impassioned argument on her blog about her deep-seated frustration with the way discussions of race and racism in Britain were constantly being shut down by those who weren't affected by it. She gave the post the title 'Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race'. Her sharp, fiercely intelligent words hit a nerve, and the post went viral, spawning a huge number of comments from people desperate to speak up about their own similar experiences. 

    Galvanised by this response, Eddo-Lodge decided to dive into the source of these feelings, this clear hunger for an open discussion. The result is a searing, illuminating, absolutely necessary exploration of what it is to be a person of colour in Britain today, covering issues from eradicated black history to white privilege, the fallacy of 'meritocracy' to whitewashing feminism, and the inextricable link between class and race. Full of passionate, personal and keenly felt argument, Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race is a wake-up call to a nation in denial about the structural and institutional racism occurring in our homes. 

    ©2017 Bloomsbury (P)2017 Audible, Ltd

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    • Raj
    • 06/10/2020

    Incredible read

    Disclaimer : This book is much more than my piece of opinion.

    Mrs Eddo-Lodge has captured in words a lot of the anger minorities feel when race is put up for debate in the west. How our opinions are discounted or discredited when trying to jostle the status quo. For the first time I realise that the frustration I felt when debating race is not new and I'm not the only one who felt it.

    Thank you.

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    Very insightful

    Very insightful book that definitely opened up my eyes to the history of black people I was never exposed to. This book also made me realise that it is up to me a white person to go find and spread this information, it is our duty.

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    Wonderfully shocking

    I was not prepared for much of the information given in this amazing book. This makes it very clear that I have not been educated about this part of the history of the human race and in particular about the different experiences white and non-white people have. I look forward to educate myself even more & would highly suggest this book!

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    Vision très instructive et rafraîchissante

    A travers son expérience dans le contexte du Royaume-Uni, l'auteure offre dans ce livre une vision très instructive et rafraîchissante d'un problème plus répandu qu'on ne le croit et dont il est parfois difficile de se rendre compte de l'ampleur. Les voix de celles et ceux qui subissent le racisme dans toutes les étapes de leur vie, si elles sont souvent entendues, ne sont que trop rarement vraiment écoutées. Je conseille vivement la lecture de ce livre qui vous fera, à n'en pas douter, repenser de nombreux aspects de votre vie et vous encouragera peut-être à faire passer le mot.

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    Excellent

    Très informatif, intéressant et qui force à interroger son rôle et sa responsabilité en tant que personne blanche. Agréable à écouter : le livre est lu par l’autrice et on sent qu’elle est à l’aise avec son propre texte. Je recommande !

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    MUST BE READ

    it's urgent for everyone to hear this. perfect. I have no words. thanks, will pass on the message.

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    Great!

    Factual, highly interesting and documented reflexion on racism and how it works, how it is translated into policies, politics etc. I enjoyed it. I felt empowered by the fact that a fellow WOC (woman of colour) had lived similar struggles to mine. A good read. Her voice is steady and calm. Her perspective is also interesting because she is British and not American, as we hear less often from the experiences of Black British people on racism. Everyone should read it, especially white people who refuse to see themselves as such - or are tense when the topic of race comes on the table.

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    • Buretto
    • 08/03/2018

    In truth, I don't have THAT particular privilege

    What did you love best about Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race?

    I loved the author's power and passion about the subject. There is no doubt that she is sincere in her beliefs. I concur with nearly everything she presents here, save for a few flights of speculative fancy and the citing of some extremist views as mainstream. But as a white American male, I recognize that I am a guest in Ms. Eddo-Lodge's realm here, and respect the chance to hear ideas and learn from sources previously unknown to me.

    I acknowledge the privilege I enjoy. My personal morality is based on that recognition and respecting that it is not universal. I have alienated family and friends with this worldview, and have done so without remorse. And I continue, at every chance, to chastise, scold, and occasionally, if I'm lucky, educate those who speak, hint or embolden racist ideas. Hence, the headline. It is my duty, and I accept it.

    I don't write this to present myself as one of the "good ones", and to be honest, it doesn't overly concern me if Ms. Eddo-Lodge likes or respects me. I've taken my responsibility, and she's taken hers. I believe these are both positive steps, and I think she'd agree.

    What other book might you compare Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race to and why?

    I won't list them, but this is much better than many books of this type. She pulls no punches and makes her case. My only, cautious, exception is to the occasional supposition, perhaps unintentionally, of a monolithic black view. She acknowledges differences, primarily American and British, and even, ever so slightly, her own shortcomings. But it never descends to into victimhood.

    Have you listened to any of Reni Eddo-Lodge’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

    It's the only book on Audible by her, but I'd be more than willing to listen to anything else she may produce.

    Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

    Yes and, in fact, I did. It was refreshing to hear a reasoned, quite determined, presentation of views. All too often these kinds of discussions are grotesque shouting matches.

    Any additional comments?

    The author mentions the origins of the term "white skin privilege", but I thought it was useful to mention that term had started to gain momentum in 1999 and 2000, in the person of Bill Bradley, a presidential candidate (who lost the Democratic primary to Al Gore, who subsequently "lost" to George W. Bush in the general election). It seemed like a fair compromise which gave white people the opportunity to take a step back and see the big picture without immediately acknowledging complicity in active racism. It didn't seem to take, though.

    Also, I'm curious whether the author didn't know, or didn't care, to give Public Enemy the credit for the name she gave to her worldview. It was a huge album back in '90.

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    • Duane J.
    • 15/06/2017

    Jesus took the wheel...

    and chauffeured Ms. Eddo-Lodge through a dynamic thought-provoking yet humbling piece of work. This book challenges you to challenge the idea of what 'normal' is. Whether it relates to race, sex, or gender and the intersectionality of it all. Bravo!

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    • Justin
    • 06/03/2018

    well read, but nothing new here.

    boilerplate race conflict theory. backed up with conjecture and cherry picked history. Reni is a very good writer and narrator though. I think she took an honest attempt at an incredibly difficult and nebulous topic. worth a read our listen

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    • Anonymous User
    • 02/06/2018

    Clear, comprehensive, British

    Well researched with clear guidance, simply written and easily understood, free from activist jargon and therefore wonderfully accessible. Utterly thought provoking. A must read. Particularly poignant if you grew up in Britain during the 80’s as I did. I can’t recommend this book enough.

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    • Kindle Customer
    • 15/12/2017

    Great study and insight on racism

    This books does an excellent job of showing the history and structures of racism that exist beyond the American struggle. A must read to learn about race in the UK

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    • Nora
    • 16/05/2018

    awkwardnora

    It helped me frame the ideas that I had into way that I could discuss with others. definitely recommend it.

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    • 15/05/2018

    ACCURATE

    Finally! Someone has put into words how I feel. She is an AWESOME writer and narrator. Looking forward to more from her.

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    • Anonymous User
    • 10/10/2017

    Essential enlightening listening

    Never have I come across a book that so succinctly lays out the context for racism in the UK.

    will be giving this multiple listens. as this might as well be set as a taught text !

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    • Landon Taylor
    • 27/12/2020

    Thumbs Up from a White American

    I finished listening to the Audible recording moments ago, and now I’m ordering a hardcopy so I can interact with the text, delve into the numerous quotable quotes and sit with the zingers. It’s that good.

    I thought the book might not resonate with me since the first chapter is about the *British* history of racial injustice, and I’m an American. But as I listened, I found a disturbingly similar story to the one I’m familiar with. The current parallels between our countries are also undeniable, as the rest of the book shows.

    The author illuminates modern inequality with precision and heart, using her own experience as well as data to paint a picture that is invisible to so many people.

    Read or listen, and become part of the solution.

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    • Amazon Customer
    • 13/07/2018

    Interesting, but aggressive.

    It was very engaging to hear about racism in another country and how many parallels we share. I did find many of the author's statements true, but aggressively conveyed. However, some points were just pandering over-generalizations about majority populations. Those are what made it hard for me to fully embrace this novel. A valuable expose of a shared experience, nonetheless.

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    • Gabilene
    • 22/09/2019

    Ich bin weiß und lebe in einer weißen Gesellschaf.

    Das Buch von Reni Eddo-Lodge ist unbequem, aufrüttelnd, aber nicht per se angreifend. Da Englisch nicht meine Muttersprache ist, werde ich ihre Arbeit noch einmal hören müssen, um alle Aspekte ihrer Aussage nachvollziehen zu können. Übrigens betrifft ihre Analyse von Rassismus nicht nur England. Ich finde viele Parallelen in Deutschland und in Südafrika, wo ich 5 Jahre lebte. Eine Herausforderung zum Nachdenken und Neudenken!

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    • E Horlemann
    • 18/02/2020

    This book opens doors for both black and white

    This book has been a mind-blowing book for me! Despite my age, this book opened doors for me that explained lots of things that I as an African woman could never give a name to racial discrimination, but it also has given answers to the many questions that I had. Thanks for this objective and at the same time highly informative book

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    • Lisa
    • 12/06/2020

    Thought-provoking points on institutional racism outlined in a very subjective manner

    I found that this was a very interesting book and it opened my eyes to some of the more recent British history with racism of which I was not aware. Eddo-Lodge reads very well and presents well thought-out arguments and clearly articulated points on institutional racism in Britain and worldwide. However, I found the book to be very subjective and while examples were given to back-up her points, the author used these to generalise to white people as a whole.
    The "us" and "them" mentality was very clear throughout the narrative and what was missing in this book for me was the clear actions that can be taken to become anti-racist given all of the problems described.

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    • Kindle Customer
    • 19/01/2020

    "there is no justice, just us"

    As a German POC, this book made me feel inspired, driven and less alone.

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    • Susanne S.
    • 01/12/2021

    Such an important book!

    A must read! In my opinion this book should be accompanying history books (which are unfortunately so often full of biased information or plane ignorant) Thank you Reni Eddo Lodge for all your hard work!

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    • Alex
    • 28/07/2021

    Necessary work

    A bit incohesive in parts but on the whole the arguments are well made and also (relatively) accessible for non-academic audiences (though the references to blogs/social media accounts might come across as exclusive sometimes).

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    • Jafles Fernandes Pacheco
    • 08/08/2020

    Inspiringly and unsettling

    This book made me think about all the inequality in the world and wonder if we are ever going to overcome it...

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    • Chris P.
    • 22/07/2020

    So Much More Than Race

    Seeking equality? Read this book first. Eddo-Lodge introduces in-depth insights to Britain's societal issues which stem far beyond "race relations". She meticulously explains how and why the situation is so dire. Such patience and diligence does not come easy. If anyone, were to ask me about race, I will recommend they read this book first. Thank you, Ms. Eddo-Lodge for committing the time, effort and, risks necessary to produce a fragment of your immortalised self.

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    • Tobias Soring
    • 10/06/2020

    Black Lives Matter

    Hat meine Denkweise in vielerlei Hinsicht geändert, trotz meiner zuvorigen Ansicht, dass ich bereits ausreichend informiert sei. Es behandelt absolut wichtige Thematiken. Intelligent und verständlich geschrieben. Ein absolutes Muss.

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    • Private Person
    • 14/09/2019

    real-life experience, must read.

    Very down to earth, first hand account and description of a perspective I wasn't fully aware of. Grateful she wrote it. Definitely a conversation starter, should be compulsory for all to read and discuss.