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  • Robert E. Lee and Me

  • A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause
  • De : Ty Seidule
  • Lu par : Ty Seidule
  • Durée : 10 h et 45 min

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    "The narrator’s skill as an educator is evident in this production. Seidule's varied tone and pace keep listeners engaged while he describes historical events in detail." (Booklist)

    This program is read by the author.

    In a forceful but humane narrative, former soldier and head of the West Point history department Ty Seidule's Robert E. Lee and Me challenges the myths and lies of the Confederate legacy - and explores why some of this country’s oldest wounds have never healed.

    Ty Seidule grew up revering Robert E. Lee. From his southern childhood to his service in the US Army, every part of his life reinforced the Lost Cause myth: that Lee was the greatest man who ever lived, and that the Confederates were underdogs who lost the Civil War with honor. Now, as a retired brigadier general and Professor Emeritus of History at West Point, his view has radically changed. From a soldier, a scholar, and a southerner, Ty Seidule believes that American history demands a reckoning.

    In a unique blend of history and reflection, Seidule deconstructs the truth about the Confederacy - that its undisputed primary goal was the subjugation and enslavement of Black Americans - and directly challenges the idea of honoring those who labored to preserve that system and committed treason in their failed attempt to achieve it. Through the arc of Seidule’s own life, as well as the culture that formed him, he seeks a path to understanding why the facts of the Civil War have remained buried beneath layers of myth and even outright lies - and how they embody a cultural gulf that separates millions of Americans to this day.

    Part history lecture, part meditation on the Civil War and its fallout, and part memoir, Robert E. Lee and Me challenges the deeply-held legends and myths of the Confederacy - and provides a surprising interpretation of essential truths that our country still has a difficult time articulating and accepting.      

    A Macmillan Audio production from St. Martin's Press

    "Perhaps the best attribute of this fine book is the author’s honesty. It’s difficult to imagine a more timely book than Robert E. Lee and Me. At this pivotal moment, when we are debating some of the most painful aspects of our history, Seidule’s unsparing assessment of the Lost Cause provides an indispensable contribution to the discussion." (Washington Post)

    "In this fine book Ty Seidule scorches us with the truth and rivets us with his fierce sense of moral urgency. I can't think of a better book to enrich and invigorate our national discussion about race and memory and the troubled legacy of Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy." (New York Times bestselling author of Alexander Hamilton)

    "A beautiful, often searing meditation on race, history, and the American narrative. Evocative and provocative, Robert E. Lee and Me is honest, wry, and utterly engaging." (Rick Atkinson, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The British are Coming)

    ©2021 Ty Seidule (P)2021 Macmillan Audio
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    • Matt Poe
    • 01/02/2021

    Changing a heart and mind

    Loved it. It's a great example of how change can happen. Unfortunately you will notice in the ratings that so many have chosen not to change and it just exemplifies how far this country needs to go. (Edit) I see Audible went in and removed all the snarky, spiteful 1 star votes that were listed when I first posted my review. Well done.

    I can't wait for the Army to start changing the base names. One more step forward. It's absolutely the right thing to do. LTC (Ret.)

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    • Daniel Munier
    • 29/04/2021

    Waste of time

    Thought this book would be a critical look at the Civil War from the Union’s perspective. Instead the author spends little time on the Civil War other than criticizing the South and spends most of the time talking about himself and going on a 10 hour apology rant for being racist until he became woke.

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    • Nice guy
    • 17/02/2021

    One Officer to Another - Service Clarified

    This is one well needed book. It is a story about how our own service was colored by the stigma of racism. I appreciate a historians view of how the Civil War myths have set the stage for the last 100 years of our country's history and more how it shaped the American Army. If you want to understand the reasons for changing names of military installations, if you want to confront our deep understanding of slavery, and if you want to understand how we can work to make it better listen to this book. I found myself saying yes I understand (have lived it) throughout the book, especially when the author said that a logistic's officer should be the next Army chief of staff "and she will straighten it all out". Thanks. Another LTC (Ret.)

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    • Danielle & Jason Phillips
    • 15/05/2021

    A man still hunting for status

    Ty Seidule states many facts in his book and then immediately jumps to unsupported conclusions multiple times. He also seems to have no problem assuming what and why people were thinking with no support. Was the Civil war about slavery… certainly that is fact, was slavery mentioned in the Constitution, very famously… no. Apply the 10th amendment and “which right” becomes moot. He seems to imply that Mary Lee was thinking of a second rising when choosing R.E.Lee’s burial, again no support only conjecture. He implies Lee’s reasons for staying with VA without support, more conjecture. During much of the book the author uses facts to build strawmen and then take them to task, the southern racists overtly showing their beliefs, no mention of the covert racism in northern locations, the still segregated Boston, the power of the Indiana Klan, not a whisper. Oddly, he never blames his father for being a racist or enrolling him in racist schools only the schools for teaching lost cause mythology. Finally, the author himself a retired brigadier general who has spent his life seeking status, first as a Virginia gentleman, which he failed to attain as he never breached that particular social class. Then as an Army officer, which one could argue being a BG makes you, but it actually does not, he never commanded beyond the BN, or received a seat at the table of movers and decision makers in the Army. Finally, as a historian, perhaps here he will make his claim to status in the publish or perish world of history. Perhaps here he can be received by the elite, those seeking to change the narrative in order to allow books to be published about the same facts in a different way, in this he can publish books with high school level research and minimal work. I wish him the best and may he live forever.

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    • Matt Personal
    • 15/03/2021

    A good read

    This book makes you question everything no matter how much of a scholar you consider yourself of the war. I also own the Hardback book. The nice thing about the book is it cites all his research by chapter. It gives you a good place to go look up your own information.

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    • Tinkerbaby
    • 15/02/2021

    Required reading by every American

    This book must be very widely distributed.
    Like so many Americans I had been taken in by the Hollywood version of the Nobel south.
    Robert E Lee was a traitor, and this book lays out succinctly the argument that the South should let go of the myths and move into the future.
    The insurrection of January 6th can be laid squarely on the continued spread of white supremacy, and reading this book goes a long way in explaining the reasons for it.

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    • Anita Hunt
    • 04/02/2021

    Lose the "Lost Cause."

    As a retired public school principal, former history teacher, college instructor and social studies curriculum advisor, finding a crack in the Lost Cause Myth to bring forward to students, faculty and those who develop education policy has been difficult. In this book, Ty has used one the most effective strategies in education, the telling of a story, a true story to shatter the myth. Thank you Ty for doing it. It is a shame that it required your retirement from the Army to do so. Be assured my voice, however small these days, will shout the praises of this book to my current and former colleagues.
    Well done, sir.
    Jim Hunt, MAed
    Cadillac, Michigan

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    • M. Kern
    • 03/02/2021

    Brilliant. Should be required reading at W&L and elsewhere

    A brilliant, thoughtful, well written and narrated reckoning of the lost cause mythology. As a southern native and alum of Washington and Lee, this book made me think in new ways about my roots and culture. It teaches about about some amazing black Americans and lays bare the horrific racial oppression and white washing practiced for centuries. This should be required reading in southern schools - especially Washington and Lee.

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    • Betsy Rodriguez
    • 07/02/2021

    Courageous & Genuine

    An important book about Cofederacy history, and how the lingering attitudes of denial have maintained and sometimes promote the seditious, treasonous cause as noble and just. The author has the courage of inserting his own southern gentleman experience to acknowledge how deceived his own beliefs and values have been when validated against the actual facts of history. This book should become a curriculum book in all higher learning institutions and military academies.

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    • JAMES W GOODWIN
    • 18/02/2021

    Robert E Lee and Me book

    Great hearing Ty’s point of view points brought up are spot on as a white Southerner I have a hard time with my and other peoples knowledge of what is covered in this book. Every Southerner should read this just to hear this side of things.

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