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  • Redshirts

  • A Novel with Three Codas
  • De : John Scalzi
  • Lu par : Wil Wheaton
  • Durée : 7 h et 41 min
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Redshirts

De : John Scalzi
Lu par : Wil Wheaton
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    Ensign Andrew Dahl has just been assigned to the Universal Union Capital Ship Intrepid, flagship of the Universal Union since the year 2456. It’s a prestige posting, and Andrew is thrilled all the more to be assigned to the ship’s Xenobiology laboratory. Life couldn’t be better…until Andrew begins to pick up on the facts that (1) every Away Mission involves some kind of lethal confrontation with alien forces; (2) the ship’s captain, its chief science officer, and the handsome Lieutenant Kerensky always survive these confrontations; and (3) at least one low-ranked crew member is, sadly, always killed.

    Not surprisingly, a great deal of energy below decks is expended on avoiding, at all costs, being assigned to an Away Mission. Then Andrew stumbles on information that completely transforms his and his colleagues’ understanding of what the starship Intrepid really is…and offers them a crazy, high-risk chance to save their own lives.

    ©2012 John Scalzi (P)2012 Audible, Inc.

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    • P. Stover
    • 16/09/2013

    Not his Wheal-house

    I love Wil Wheaton reading this book read by a former actor on Star Trek is kind of amazing. His delivery of some of the deadpan and laugh out loud lines in this book is excellent.

    However his total lack of character voices make some of the dialogue heavy passages really challenging to follow. You end up having to pay careful attention to the "he said she saids" at end of most of the lines. And then you're just tired of hearing the word "said."

    There isn't even really a differentiation between the male characters and the one female character which can be incredibly confusing. It doesn't help that some of the character names can be similar to, so you're struggling to catch who said what.

    The story itself is a fabulous farce, with really interesting philosophical implications. It was both funny and thought provoking. If you're a fan of Mr. Wheaton's you might be willing to forgive his shortcomings as a narrator, but I might still recommend the text version over the audiobook.

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    • Eivind
    • 06/08/2012

    He said, she said

    It starts out decently and the concept is quite clever and funny, but the dialogue is doing my head in. The book has these pockets of time where the main characters stand around discussing events in an effort for us and them to understand them. Fair enough really, but the way it is presented is driving me spare.

    Blabla – X said
    Blala – Y said
    Blalabla – Z said

    I just can’t take it. Especially not in audio format.

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    • Jim "The Impatient"
    • 14/06/2013

    The real Star Trek

    I've watched all the t.v. shows and all the movies, but you got to believe this is the real Star Trek. This is from the view of those thousands of crew members that do the actual work, that take the non-sensible orders from the higher ups and make the ship work.

    John Scalzi is the funniest writer out there and with Wil Wheaton they are the best duo to listen to. The book starts out with a sort of grunts by the water cooler feel. The new guy treatment is spot on. So even those who are not sci-fi fans will like the first three hours. The story does take a weirder then I prefer turn and I wish JS could have came up with a better explanation. The story actually ends around five hours and then you get the not so funny Coda's. Coda one is interesting, but goes on too long. Coda one also gets a little nasty with the writers of the original Star Trek. As a Star Trek fan I enjoyed laughing at myself and the show during the story. J.S. seemed to use coda one to say, hey if you were to stupid to figure it out, I think the Star Trek writers were lazy or stupid. Scalzi did not do his homework or he would have known that Gene Roddenberry set out to make a non-violent show. During the pilot, cowboys were the big thing and the network wanted blood or they were not going to air the show. The results were Redshirts getting killed. Coda two gives a serious message, but no answers. Telling someone that can't figure out what to do in life, that they need to get there shit together, does not help. Coda three was sweet and warm.

    I gave this five stars and it was the best book I have read this year so far and Wheaton's performance makes listening to it better then reading it. I do believe it would have been even better without the coda's.

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    • Kent
    • 18/04/2013

    Clever, creative, and FUN!

    What a creative and clever way to look at characters! I don't know if this started off with Scalzi saying, "Hmmm, I wonder if I can write in various points of view, and look behind the scenes of how characters tick?", or as just a random idea. Regardless - it worked! The main story was funny, poignant, and creative. The separate coda were well-linked to the main story in a very heart-felt manner. I really liked this book a lot! I am fastly becoming a huge Scalzi fan-boy! “Old Man’s War”, “Fuzzy Nation”, and not “Redshirts” – all good stuff! Oh, but, I guess amidst all this mush of Scalzi-love, I probably should point out that he does have a tendency to use the screenplay style ("he said", "she said") a bit too much! And, particularly in an audiobook, this becomes VERY obvious…and not just a little irritating! Let's just call this his "room to grow" as an author! (Maybe that's how he gets his word-count up for meeting publisher requirements???) Still, other than that one affectation, I really like the way he thinks and writes! His dialog is crisp and focused, and his characters are ALWAYS unique and enjoyable. I will definitely read/listen to more of his works!
    And, as an audiobook, Wil Wheaton did an excellent job as Narrator - which makes sense that he'd be able to inflect emotion into these characters because, he himself (as Wesley Crusher on "Star Trek TNG") must have felt like his character might just as casually become just such a "Redshirt" in the early days of his TV series appearances. Wil Wheaton did a really good job of putting dynamic range into the various characters - with more vocal intonations than I'm use to from him (as an audiobook Narrator). He really got into these characters!
    So, from all perspectives, this was an excellent listen!

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    • Bradford
    • 06/03/2013

    Disappointing, but somehow still worth a listen.

    There were a few reasons I was intrigued enough to purchase this audiobook. First, I was eager to read my first John Scalzi book and see what he could do. Second, I'm a fan of Wil Wheaton as a narrator. Third, I'm a huge Star Trek fan. So, the idea of a novel based around one of the funnier/sad aspects of ST:TOS, I was excited to read this book. My intrigue quickly turned to disappointment especially once the core story's big reveal took place and the course of the 2nd half of the novel came into focus. But to Scalzi's credit, I cared enough about his characters by that point that I wanted to find out what happened to them, so I read on. After finishing the book I had to endure the three codas. Interesting as they were, Scalzi had more than used up my patience by that point with the storyline and his writing. I was surprised to find the codas were written better than the main novel itself! I look forward to reading more Scalzi novels to determine whether this is one of his lesser works or if he really is this below-average a writer. Regardless, he should fire his editor who for some unknown reason allowed a novel to be published with a nearly endless stream of "he said" and "she said" on every page. You can even hear Wheaton begin to sigh at points after reciting "he said" nearly a dozen times over the course of 30 seconds. Wheaton continues to impress me with his narration skills, bringing life to a group of characters and making the story enjoyable enough for me to stick around. Fans of ST:TOS should enjoy the references as well as the take on the meaningless deaths of so many characters, but I for one think Scalzi could have approached the same idea in a different way with more success. Regardless, the characters are worth the time, if for no other reason than to hear futuristic space explorers/warriors cursing like modern-day truckers.

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    • Amazon Customer
    • 05/04/2013

    "Really Funny!" She said.

    Scalzi still uses 'said' for nearly every exchange of dialogue, which will drive some people really nuts. It's the elephant in the living room for this book. If you don't zero in on it, you might never notice.

    Personally, I LOVED the comedy, speed, and pitch of the banter. The first five hours are a huge laugh, with some earnest drama and important life lessons sprinkled in, from first to last. The star trek references are so very classic. And the dramatic pauses and high school theater way the officers make exchanges, then automatically switch to normal speech when not on point. So funny!

    This was my first book with this author, and it had me moving happily on to Android's Dream, Agent to the Stars, Fuzzy Nation, and the Old Man's War series. A great find! Fixation on the word 'said' or no.

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    • Brian PDX
    • 06/06/2012

    Scalzi writes another winner/it's really different

    Listening to the first hour of so of "Redshirts" I was sure it was just another funny story, full of sly humor and sassy one liners that make me laugh the way "Fuzzy Nation" and "Agent to the Aliens" did. When I heard about the book on Scalzis blog and read the beginning paragraphs I was sure thats where it would go-and I'm fine with that. I love his fun novels. Everyone needs a laugh at one time or another. Except for the head banging "He Said", "She said" dialogue that Scalzi writes (which seems to drive we audiobook listeners bonkers), the start of Wil Wheatons reading of Scalzi's new novel led me to believe I'd laugh the evening away.

    Then it got a bit serious. Funny, still, but serious with a strange twist that had me totally amazed at the concept. I had to rewind a chapter here and there because I was sure I'd missed something. I wasn't getting it all. As the novel got deeper into the left hand turn the plot had made, it didn't lose it's fun jauntiness but it did gather even more unexpected sober, tough thinking adding plenty of "I never thought about that before" to the plot .

    Character development is ...well..odd because Scalzi has developed his main protagonists along a couple of different lines. Pathways I had never considered in many years as an SF reader and viewer (and listener even). It's good character development...we know the protagonists- we have known them for years, even decades of Star Trek and they never seem to change..but these characters are sharper, more developed and very clever when they analyze their situation aboard the Universal Union Capital Ship "Intrepid", flag ship of the galaxy. They have a captain who is completely J.T. Kirkian in attitude and language, a ships engineer, doctor...in fact all the standard characters we have gotten used to seeing-including new ensigns wearing red shirts. The ones who die on away missions.

    I don't write spoilers so all this sounds vague but I want to encourage listeners to stick with the book through the irritating dialogue then listen carefully to the next few hours.

    As for the Codas,I think they add to the book. I don't know how else Scalzi would have added the information..it wouldn't have fit into the body of the novel. And though it isn't really vital information it is lore that adds to the novel and incases our knowledge of the characters. Some reviewers on the Amazon site discounted the codas entirely. I think they are part of the book and it's an interesting way to insert this data into the book.

    This is a book for SF lovers, Star Wars/Star Trek fans, ComicCon goers and generally those of us who grew up with Heinlein and Roddenberry, with Ray Bradbury (who passed away today at age 91) and Rod Serling, with Neil Gaiman and Isaac Asimov.
    Scalzi fits in with all these guys, especially the early Robert Heinlein YA books, though theres nothing YA about "Redshirts".

    I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

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    • Amazon Customer
    • 21/09/2013

    He said. She said. He Said. She said. They said...

    Would you recommend this book to a friend? Why or why not?

    No.!

    Though I have always found John Scalazi's humor and plot lines engaging his use of dialogue in this book so tedious it spoils the whole experience.

    The meat and bones of what the characters have to say is fine but the connective tissue of he said's can, at best, be said to occasionally rise to the level of tedious.

    The problem might not be so obvious on the printed page but as an audio book the the repetition of "He said"or "She said" as the link between almost every spoken phrase had me cringing in anticipation. If Pavlov had slapped the dog with a wet fish every time he rang the bell I imagine the effect would have been very much the same.

    Would you recommend Redshirts to your friends? Why or why not?

    No.

    Any additional comments?

    It's a pity, I really do like the way Scalazi thinks but I just couldn't enjoy this performance.

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    • Cristina Hatfield
    • 10/12/2012

    Quite an enjoyable read

    It's not without its flaws but overall it was certainly worth a credit.

    Laugh out loud funny at several points and it prompted me to put several of his other books on my TBR list.

    If you know what a Redshirt is, then you'll probably enjoy this book.
    If you're a fan of Wil Wheaton, then you'll probably enjoy this book.

    If you know that you are likely to be distracted to the point of RageQuit by the overuse of a word, then I wouldn't recommend this. The only nitpicky negative critique I have about this book is that is a dialogue heavy book and the word "said" is used to the point of annoyance.

    Regardless of that, it is a fun book and I enjoyed it.

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    • colleen
    • 07/06/2012

    Galaxy Quest meets Scalzi

    Scalzi doesn't disappoint and Wheaton is brilliant. When the crew of a starship realizes it's at the mercy of science fiction writers from the past you get a great audible listen!

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    • P.C.
    • 06/11/2018

    badly written, well narrated

    After the 100th time you hear Wil Wheaton read out aloud "Dahl said" in the audio book version of this book, you start realizing that while Wheaton is a good narrator, his material is somewhat sub par in the case of Scalzis "Red Shirt".

    "Dahl said"

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    • Amazon Kunde
    • 07/08/2018

    Good book, but...

    Its a good book but:
    Wheaton is only a mediocre voice actor and i almost lost my mind 'cause every dialog is annoyingly full of he saids and she saids.
    Are you aware of the fact, that a voice actor can show who is saying what by actual voice acting?

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    • Henrik Francke
    • 20/07/2018

    A good story doesn't equal a good author

    I have yet to finish the book, but so far the story is rather amusing.

    The concept is nice and something new, but the writing style is atrocious.
    Not sure if it would be as noticeable in book form but when it is read it is garing.

    The worst part so far has been when two of the main characters talk early on

    x said....y said.....x said.....y said....x said....y said. Very rarely is there any differentiation from this pattern.
    Had the narrator been able to adapt his voice enough to differentiate between characters (which I'm sure he could have) and had he been allowed to leave out all the superflous "x said y said" I would be able to talk more indepth about smaller traits of the book.

    Overall this would make for a nice audioplay instead of a audiobook. Or a movie/black mirror episode

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    • Walter
    • 09/10/2012

    Avoiding the Narrative

    At first things are not going well for the junior officers of the UUS Intrepid: they are trapped in a mad universe and programed to die as redshirts on away missions (being a ”Star Trek” insider is an essential perquisite to understand anything at all). The only advise they get is “Avoid the narrative!” something the author does too - hence a few hours of nothing but dialogs. The protagonist and the listener are on the verge of being completely annoyed and quitting, but then things change…

    The story really takes of as soon as the redshirts take their fate into their own hand and the result is just great. John Scalzi tops it by adding three codas and thereby giving it an emotional depth one would not have expected at first. Add to that Wil Wheaton as narrator – after all Wesely Crusher was a redshirt too…

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    • Johannes Müller
    • 29/05/2022

    Nice little story

    enjoyable, well-crafted, fun narration.
    True, the "X said" is noticeable, but it fades out eventually.

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    • GaigeDaois
    • 26/12/2021

    interesting enough story, awful narration

    Might still work for you, if you can either stand or ignore "X said", "Y said" following every second statement.

    Don't know if it's the books fault or the script for the audiobook, but Wil Wheaton basically butchers what could have been a nice entertaining listen while doing something else

    I look it up. it is actually the book / author. audiobook would be improved by giving the characters different voices and omitting the " X said" lines.

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    • Smoke
    • 16/08/2021

    Ja die Dialoge sind teilweise schlimm zu hören

    Ich kann den anderen Bewertungen nur zustimmen. Gerade am Anfang gibt es sehr unangenehm zu hörende Dialoge weil ständig ein x said, y said dazu geschoben wird. Unnötig, da man eigentlich auch so gut versteht, wer gerade spricht und wann der Sprecher wechselt. Selbst wenn mehr als 2 sprechen. Für mich wirkt es schlecht für Hörbuch geschrieben und so gut es noch geht gesprochen. Der Sprecher versucht schon die ganzen x said kurz, schnell und schwach zu sagen. Später fiel es mir weniger auf. Teilweise ist es vielleicht besser geschrieben, teilweise habe ich noch einfach dran gewöhnt. Die Geschichte ist dann interessant und kurzweilig. Nicht das beste was ich je gehört habe, aber nie langweilig. Die 3 Anhänge sind etwas schief. Einer ist ganz nett, und die Geschichte wird nochmal aus bestimmten Blickwinkeln behandelt, aber fühle sich teilweise dennoch etwa unnötig an. Insgesamt eine Empfehlung, man muss nur ein paar Dialoge mit mäßiger Schreibweise für ein Hörbuch aushalten.

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    • HimbeerToni
    • 18/08/2020

    he said, she said

    I can't take it anymore... Every single dialog is filled with "he said", "she said". Please John Scalzi, learn to write dialog!

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    • Amazon Kunde
    • 19/05/2020

    They said "said" alot

    If you take a swig every time "x said" comes up, you'll die before the first chapter is over.

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    • Michael Winkler
    • 10/12/2019

    Too much of Wil, perfect Story by John

    The only thing I like about Wil is his youtube channel about tabletop games. Placing him, a Star Trek Actor, to read a book that, in general, is a Star Trek spin-off, is not much more than a merchandising trick. Yes, there are Star Trek Actors (or the more - voices) that do an awesome job reading books, but Wil is not such one. The whole book is read with the same pitch, its difficult to separate characters from each other, and sometimes he seems to find more joy in hearing his own voice goind down down down than to adjust to the currenct situation the story is in. Theres more to a story teller than having a deep voice.

    That set apart - a story about the red shirts of star trek is quite funny! There are so many ideas on how to exploit being a red shirt, so many implications... its simply funny to listen! Mr Scalzi, once more, good stuff of an old man ;) thank you for funny 7 hours.