In episode two, Shanna and Rachel begin with a grounding exercise and gratitude, then discuss why the word “hospice” feels scary and why it shouldn’t. Shawna shares early negative experiences with hospice-related providers targeting vulnerable homeless individuals, later contrasting that with compassionate care she saw in nursing homes and the need for stronger partnerships and advocacy for patients without family. Rachel recalls learning hospice as a young respiratory therapist and the importance of human connection. They explain hospice as a shift in focus toward comfort, dignity, and support rather than “giving up,” outline the hospice team (medical director, nurses, social worker, chaplain, aide, volunteers, and admin), and describe practical services like medication reconciliation, education on disease progression, and in-home support. They also share patient stories, a scripture on courage (Ezra 10:4), and finish with a caregiver-friendly Mediterranean cottage cheese snack.

00:00 Welcome and Setup
00:08 Guided Grounding Exercise
01:41 Gratitude Sharing
03:47 Why Hospice Feels Scary
04:00 Shawna’s First Hospice Exposure
06:07 Hospice in Nursing Homes
09:10 Rachel’s Hospital Hospice Story
11:27 Inpatient Hospice and Big Dreams
13:28 How Shawna Entered Hospice
17:40 Pauper’s Grave and Advocacy
22:49 Connection Matters Most
26:33 Mythbusting Hospice
28:17 Hospice Supports Caregivers
29:31 Caring for Aging Parents
29:51 Breaking Fixed Life Timelines
31:29 Hospice Opens Options
32:11 Meet the Hospice Team
33:32 Partners and In-Home Care
35:10 Hospice Eligibility Window
35:49 Emotions After No Cure
36:39 Practical Hospice Support
38:18 Social Worker and Chaplain
39:43 Why Start Hospice Earlier
40:42 Dementia Education for Families
42:51 Hospice Is Not Giving Up
43:36 Stories of Presence and Love
47:55 Business Lessons and Calling
50:36 Scripture on Courage
52:04 Caregiver Snack Recipe
56:11 Closing and Farewell