In this episode of The Stroke It Podcast, Jenny sits down with leadership trainer and coach Mbo’a Pascal for a powerful, practical conversation about personal wiring, discipline, and building sustainable success as both a leader and a human.

Mbo’a shares how growth starts with awareness, acceptance, and adjustment—and why most people stay stuck because they never examine the subconscious patterns driving how they think, work, communicate, and relate to others. You’ll hear how being “high energy” and full of ideas can actually sabotage progress without structure, and why discipline—not motivation—is what turns vision into results.

Jenny brings real-life examples from running a business for ten years, managing teams with very different personalities, and navigating the constant challenge of staying focused instead of chasing every new idea. Together, they unpack how understanding your wiring can help you stop trying to do everything yourself and start building systems—and teams—that actually support growth.

They also explore workplace dynamics, including how leaders can treat employees the way they want to be treated, why DISC personality awareness changes communication, and how to connect an employee’s personal dreams to the company’s mission for deeper engagement. The episode wraps with a simple but powerful action step anyone can take to begin rewiring their leadership and life.

Connect with Mbo’a Pascal
Website / Free DISC Assessment / Resources: https://mpenvisions.com/

Chapters

00:00 – Welcome + why this conversation matters for leaders
01:40 – Mbo’a’s season of life + constant adjustment
04:10 – How he got into leadership wiring and human behavior
07:30 – Idea energy vs. discipline: the formula for disaster
10:50 – Hiring executors vs. trying to do everything yourself
14:20 – Jenny’s “step away from the business” turning point
17:10 – The 4 wiring types: ideas, execution, support, systems
20:45 – When to launch an idea vs. staying focused
24:30 – Creating space for creativity if it doesn’t come naturally
27:15 – Employees, communication, and treating people how they want
31:10 – Cultural differences + leadership communication styles
34:40 – Mental health, self-awareness, and hiring aligned people
38:00 – Connecting employee dreams to company vision
41:20 – How to help people dream bigger and believe it’s possible
44:10 – Final advice: DISC, awareness, and intentional adjustment
46:20 – Where to connect with Mbo’a + free assessment

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