In this special bonus episode of Eye Opener Society, the long-awaited conversation finally happens. After more than four years of planning, the host sits down with Emma Swailes, the award-winning creator and voice behind The Bell Witch Podcast, joining us from Leeds, England (UK) for an honest, grounded, and deeply human discussion about podcasting, spirituality, grief, and modern witchcraft.

The episode opens with the journey that led to this collaboration—navigating international time zones, the realities of independent podcasting, and the quiet synchronicities that connect creators across the world. The host reflects on the very first Bell Witch Podcast episode that sparked years of listening: a calming, reflective meditation that planted the seed for this eventual meeting.

Emma shares her podcasting origin story, from a casual suggestion that turned into a calling, to the joy she finds in using her voice as a tool for storytelling and connection. She speaks candidly about the editing process, the evolution of her show, how she chooses guests, and the organic growth of The Bell Witch Podcast, which has received multiple Pagans of the North Podcast of the Year awards and recognition from Hub Hopper.

The conversation expands into what it truly means to be a witch in the 21st century—separating lived spiritual practice from Hollywood stereotypes. Emma and the host discuss paganism, Wicca, earth-based spirituality, and modern witchcraft, emphasizing reflection, personal empowerment, connection to nature, and continual learning. Myths are gently debunked, and evolving beliefs are welcomed as part of the spiritual journey.

One of the most moving segments explores how Emma’s spiritual practice supported her through grief and healing following the loss of her mother, offering listeners an honest look at how spirituality can act as an anchor during life’s most difficult moments.

Listeners are also taken along on Emma’s travel mini-series recounting a transformative journey through Cornwall and Glastonbury, visiting sacred wells, ancient ruins, castles, and the renowned witchcraft museum. This episode is celebrated for its immersive storytelling, making listeners feel as though they were walking those sacred landscapes alongside her.

Throughout the discussion, a powerful theme of community and mutual support emerges—within podcasting, pagan circles, and creative spaces. Sharing audiences, uplifting diverse voices, and supporting one another across borders becomes a reminder that meaningful connection transcends geography.

The episode closes with where to find The Bell Witch Podcast (available on all major podcast platforms) and how to connect with Emma on Instagram by searching the_bell_witch_podcast, inviting listeners curious about witchcraft, paganism, Wicca, spiritual living, meditation, and modern spirituality to explore further.

Whether you’re a longtime listener or discovering Eye Opener Society for the first time, this conversation offers depth, warmth, and a reminder that some connections are simply meant to happen—no matter how long they take.

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