In this episode of the Simple Healthy Life podcast, we sit down with MJ's longtime coach, mentor, and friend, Ross Ickes, who was recently inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. But this conversation is not about trophies, records, or accolades. It is about what happens to people when they are pushed, supported, challenged, and believed in over time.

We talk about wrestling as one of the most demanding sports there is and why its difficulty is precisely what makes it such a powerful teacher. From discipline and accountability to humility, effort, and resilience, wrestling offers lessons that extend far beyond the mat. We explore how great coaching is not about yelling, control, or ego, but about creating an environment where people feel safe enough to struggle and strong enough to grow.

This episode also dives into mentorship, identity, and long-term impact. We discuss why some coaches are remembered decades later, how leadership shows up in small moments like rides to practice or help with homework, and why success should be measured by the quality of people you help shape, not just the number of matches you win.

Whether you are an athlete, parent, coach, or someone interested in personal development, this conversation is a reminder that the hardest paths often create the strongest foundations and that real influence compounds quietly over time.