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    Did the U.S. really “save the world” in World War II? Should black athletes stop protesting and show more gratitude for what America has done for them? Are wars fought to spread freedom and democracy? Or is this all fake news? 

    American Exceptionalism and American Innocence examines the stories we’re told that lead us to think that the U.S. is a force for good in the world, regardless of slavery, the genocide of indigenous people, and the more than a century’s worth of imperialist war that the U.S. has wrought on the planet.

    Roberto Sirvent and Danny Haiphong detail just what Captain America’s shield tells us about the pretensions of U.S. foreign policy, how Angelina Jolie and Bill Gates engage in humanitarian imperialism, and why the Broadway musical Hamilton is a monument to white supremacy.

    ©2019 Roberto Sirvent and Danny Haiphong. (P)2019 Brilliance Publishing, Inc., all rights reserved. Foreword © 2019 by Ajamu Baraka. Afterword © 2019 by Glen Ford.

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    • D'Juan Eastman
    • 03/07/2019

    Still processing

    Challenges everything, however; you're left with the question of whether a permanent change in the situation is possible because of the impossibility of the total system change that is called for in the book. Capitalism isn't the end of history but there should be some care in how to dismantle it. Understanding that the uniquely United States form and it's barbarism is so closely tied with it founding in slavery comes with a new understanding when the role of inherited wealth is explained. When you understand that the bigotry and violence is from the favored group in this country to every other group, you see how concentrated power amongst people with a shared identity is an idea that is unhealthy for the species survival. Any form of government that wishes to sustain itself as a gift to all mankind will have to focus on removing or checking the unhealthy urge that drives our species death instinct. This seems to be much simpler than philosophers have made it, as it is the want to push others beneath us or the singular ego. You see this destructive urge so strong that it destroys all from top to bottom. Might be a bit over simplified, as this is only my first read. The book has thrown many of my previous thoughts into question.

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    • Brian Johnson
    • 26/02/2020

    You’re not going to like it.

    And that’s exactly the point. If you start to listen to this book and you begin to feel offended by the notions put forth by these authors, then you’re in the group of people who needs to hear this message the most. If you decide that the contents of this book are too offensive to your sensibilities, I implore you to continue listening. I did not particularly enjoy this book myself. I even wanted to give up on it a few times, but I’m glad I didn’t because each time after some contemplation and a nights sleep I found myself in agreement with many of the sentiments expressed in these pages. Having said that, I’d recommend this book to anyone!

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    • Shielding C
    • 03/05/2021

    Lackluster scholarship, shout-y performance

    I made it as far as chapter 17 before accepting I had wasted my time. Given the subtitle of "a people's history of fake news," I was expecting a systematic examination of bad journalistic practices or propaganda efforts. Instead, this is a survey of U.S. imperialism with references to U. S. pop culture loosely tied in by relentless repetition of the words, "American exceptionalism and American innocence."

    There wasn't a coherent thesis. The words of the title were repeated every other paragraph but there wasn't much explanation of how the U.S. used the events recounted to describe itself as innocent or exceptional, or who specifically wanted to use the events in this way. It also wasn't explained why the concepts of innocence or exceptionalism would be the preferred narrative of an imperial power when, for example, narratives of gritty conflicted heroism or being part of a team are popularly used in fiction (and, I think we'd find, in U.S. culture and politics itself) to sanction violence. The repetition of "innocence and exceptionalism" further came to sound like a conflation of those terms. They weren't examined independently of one another, leading to the impression that the terms could be interchangeable. When "exceptional" means the same thing as "innocent" it's not clear what the point of either word is. The thesis might as well be, "The U. S. thinks of itself as good," which is not much of a revelation.

    These on their own would have been minor complaints if the history of imperialism they recounted contained anything new, but the authors provided no unique scholarship or perspective aside from that one phrase they kept repeating.

    With favorable quotations from the anti-trans and anti-cancel-culture Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi, and with casual reference to debunked accusations that Hillary Clinton sabotaged Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary, the U. S. "ruling class" (against whom their criticism is supposed to be primarily directed) is poorly defined. If the concept of American innocence is a problem, I would expect that anyone with aspirations of taking over the U. S. war machine would share in American guilt. I can't fathom Bernie's exception from criticism, unless the fantasy is that such a pure soul in a seat of power would have dismantled it. I have no idea how they conceptualize imperialism if it's not a thing all U. S. senators and for that matter citizens contribute to and benefit from.

    I stopped listening when they started criticizing Black U. S. citizens for being less progressive than white U. S. citizens to prove that Barack Obama's election wasn't necessarily good. If you can look at poll results showing a marginalized group of people values different social priorities than you and conclude that this marginalized group shouldn't therefore get to dictate the priorities of the revolution, you're not doing a people's revolution and you're not telling a "people's history."

    My annoyance at the poor scholarship, vague premise, droning repetition of the title, and conflicts with my values were all greatly exacerbated by the reader, who frequently raised his voice and made me feel as though I had invited a Bernie Bro into my kitchen to rant at me while I washed the dishes.

    I gave the book two stars because it contains a fair introduction to the history of U. S. imperialism and its pop culture references might help this history resonate with audiences without much point of reference for international relations.

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    • Team6balls
    • 19/05/2020

    still have more to listen

    so far this book has been absolute trash but I will do another review after I finish like it's just constant whining and complaining that's all I've heard so far


    I'm further into the book and it's still a bunch of loaded words salads mixed with opinions and accusations. nothing to support what the author is trying to claim and everything is painted one-sided

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    • Single Again
    • 20/02/2021

    Simply Brilliant!

    If you do not understand the myth of “American Exceptionalism and American Innocence” (also known as the BIG LIE) everything you do understand will only confuse you.

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    • P. Blair
    • 27/11/2020

    incoherent, repetitive, whiny

    this snide, sanctimonious long form tantrum of a book is about as much fun as being lectured by a hall monitor.

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    • Adrian Lambrinos
    • 15/09/2020

    Thorough and uncompromising

    While some may object to Sirvent’s and Haiphong’s findings, the historical and empirical evidence is both academic and critical of our current sociopolitical state. I think it’s imperative that the concept of American Exceptionalism be critiqued and exposed for the deceptive qualities it imbues, but I’m biased.

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    • Vivian
    • 27/01/2020

    Fascinating new thoughts that are right in front of our eyes

    Thank you for making me think about new ways our government could work and what we take for granted. As in our current climate, if you say anything often enough it becomes the truth even if it isn’t.

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    • Trebla
    • 13/11/2019

    a 1968 teach-in on a cellphone

    The utter arrogance of youth is on public display. It is not that America is unaware of past and present flaws- it is more important to find that Darwinian solution needed for today's environment. Howard Zinn has done a much better job making the alternative stories of history evident, and these fellows attempt to show us the "right" way is impressively both prolix and lightweight.

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