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12 Rules for Life

An Antidote to Chaos
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Penguin presents the audiobook edition of 12 Rules for Life, written and read by Jordan B. Peterson.

What are the most valuable things that everyone should know? Acclaimed clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson has influenced the modern understanding of personality, and now he has become one of the world's most popular public thinkers, with his lectures on topics from the Bible to romantic relationships to mythology drawing tens of millions of viewers.

In an era of unprecedented change and polarising politics, his frank and refreshing message about the value of individual responsibility and ancient wisdom has resonated around the world.

In this book, he provides 12 profound and practical principles for how to live a meaningful life, from setting your house in order before criticising others to comparing yourself to who you were yesterday, not someone else today. Happiness is a pointless goal, he shows us. Instead we must search for meaning, not for its own sake but as a defence against the suffering that is intrinsic to our existence.

Drawing on vivid examples from his clinical practice and personal life, cutting-edge psychology and philosophy, and lessons from humanity's oldest myths and stories, Peterson takes the listener on an intellectual journey like no other. Gripping, thought-provoking and deeply rewarding, 12 Rules for Life offers an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to our modern problems.

©2018 Jordan B. Peterson (P)2018 Penguin Books Ltd

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Nice, if you like preaching

It’s a good book. It’s also a tiresome book.

Riddled with anecdotes and snippets of advice on how to live. I listened to the audiobook and Peterson's voice is often harsh - he sounds angry most of the time. It's not his fault, perhaps he speaks like this all the time, but I've had my fill.

I got really tired of the author's sermons in the end. I could barely finish the book.
I had to skip certain texts - especially when he goes on and on, time and again, preaching biblical , often Old Testament truths.
Am I in church ?

At times the book is absolutely genius. Some texts are jewels of insight, knowledge and wisdom.

At times though, I find the writer totally misses the mark.

I think Peterson is a good man - I believe he has had too much unfair criticism from many; archiving him with the alt-right. He clearly is not an extremist. There’s a moderate conservatism present - but also a moderate progressivism. All in all a very descent and good person.

I understand that the book has helped many people with their lives, especially young men. For this I would give it 5 stars.

But the constant preaching and promotion of Old Testament ideas totally turns me off.
One star taken away.

And some of the basic tenets are discutable if not plain wrong. Take the idea that “feminine equals chaos" while "masculin equals order”.

Or the way he starts the chapter in rule 7 : ““Life is suffering. That’s clear. There is no more basic, irrefutable truth.”

Hmm…. no it isn't.

And then there's all the contradictory material.
Take "Rule 9", where the first paragraph details how wrong it is to give advice. This ... in a book littered with advice, sermons and preaching.


And so I take another star away - leaving the book with 3 stars.

It’s a good book. But I’m not going to buy the sequel.

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Way too long

Like many reviewers , I enjoyed his YouTube videos, however, while listening to this audiobook, I felt like a mouse in a labyrinth looking for a piece of cheese. This book could be condensed down to a single flash card. Too many religious references and the author goes off on an tangent for too many times in each rules. Save your time and buy a summary.

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Fantastic, made me weep!

The book being read by Jordan Peterson was ideal for his tone and emphasis! Five stars aren't enough!

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Must read for self development

12 important and well explained rules illustrated by examples.
I put 5 stars for the story even though it is not a novel because J. B. Peterson shares his own experiences and they help you understand.

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Mind Blower Extraordinaire

The first chapter seemed actually to be the less easy to get through. The Coda is quite an acrobatic exercise. Thanks for the great work, JBP!

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The best self help book ever written

Jordan B. Peterson is for the most important intellectual of our time, read this book !

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very knowledgeable person with a true

will to share his wisdom, morals and philosophy to the word. worth the reading even though there is a lot to chew

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Complete disrespect of my time

I couldn't get past the second rule, the rules themselves may be useful and really good but the author has a way to communicate them that really makes it hard to stay focused and willing to keep listening.

First, it is waaaaaaaay too long, I feel like every chapter could be shortened at least 10 times. The author has no respect for the listener time.
Second, the explanations and context seem completely off-topic, it takes dozens of minutes between the beginning of a chapter on a given rule and the moment when the author finally makes a connection between what he's saying and the rule itself.
Third, in the 2h49mns I have listened to, I feel like the author has talked about God/Christianity for half of that time. All of second rule seems to be based on this topic, this is completely unacceptable. In no way does God/Christianity belong in any "scientific" book, if you really want to use God/Christianity to make a point, make it really quick. I don't need nor want to hear about Adam and Eve for 30minutes straight like in this book, this is nonsense.

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need a second and third listen!!! a GOLD MINE!!!

great and quite unsettling because everything is so deep. These 12 lessons need to be taken into account in our lives because they will come in handy! great work. My best book for 2018!

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a must read.

A brilliant synthesis accessible to the layman, of ancient and modern wisdom.
Dr J B Peterson is one of the sharpest thinkers of our time aiming at the betterment of society through the betterment of individuals.
the guy deserves a Nobel!

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  • Jarrod
  • 16/01/2018

Easily accessible wisdom

Jordan Peterson presents a refreshing voice of wisdom in a crowd of shrill hysteria and politically correct drivel. I was impressed with the combination of common sense advice and surprising insights. There is lots to learn here. If you’re looking for a blueprint for a life well lived, you’ve come to the right place.

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  • Martin
  • 20/02/2018

Life-changing in every sense of the word

This book has brought me joy, laughter and also tears, grief and profound sadness. Through the wisdom of ancient texts and personal anecdotes, doctor Peterson gave me courage to face my fear of responsibility, take my place in the world and improve the lives of those around me. The performance is deeply personal and precise as is the case with other Peterson's material. I hope I will return to this book for strength and inspiration whenever I need them most.

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  • M MENGEL
  • 01/02/2018

Lit

A candle has been lit in the world to keep the dark at bay.

I’m in awe of Jordan’s capacity to ignore the nonsense hurled at him, and still speak with a white hot passion to help people. It humbles and makes you want to emulate.

Twelve simple rules that get into your subconscious so quickly it feels like they were always there.

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  • Oliver
  • 18/01/2018

Deep and enjoyable experience

Peterson goes all in in his effort to lay out his philosophy in a form that resonates on many levels of analysis. The book is simultaneously a compelling map of reality, guide to a balanced and meaningful life, and a deep defence of Western culture, Christian values and healthy masculinity, which are all currently under attack. I think this book is not just an insightful thought provoker, but also a healthy vaccination against dangerous ideological viruses which are unleashed in the modern world.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 28/08/2018

This book has been rated five lobsters.

Amazing book, very deep and thoughtful. It teaches the individual responsibility over ones actions. To speak the truth and many other wonderfully useful things.

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  • Hans
  • 28/03/2018

Pure Wisom

Any additional comments?

Jordan Peterson deliver advices, that are ready to implement into our daily life.
He turns his knowledge into wisdom by showing the principles, which we should use as a guide both in the professional and private life.

Idea of taking full responsibility for our choices makes perfect sense and give hope to all of the young people, who got deeply immersed into the nihilist world of mass consumption.

JBP narration makes the whole listening experience even better.

Lessons that you can takeaway from this book could be life-changing, especially if you want to give your life meaning and orient yourself in the world.

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  • Francois
  • 29/03/2019

Pompous, tiring and ultimately hollow

Jordan Peterson is at his best when he talks psychology: his professional field of study. There is insight to be found in those passages.

This book, however, deviates quite far into second rate biblically-skewed philosophy and tedious self-evident self-help mantras, all delivered by Peterson’s choked up voice.

Peterson would have saved us a bunch of time if he applied to himself more of the humility and restraint that he so likes to preach.

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  • Anubhav Misra
  • 12/02/2018

Spirituality for the reasonable

Would you consider the audio edition of 12 Rules for Life to be better than the print version?

I prefer the narrative power of the author speaking his own words. Hence, yes! I find it much better than the print.

What was one of the most memorable moments of 12 Rules for Life?

The coda(nice choice of words there). Like a sonata form recapitulation, it ties together the multi-themed spiritual sonata that was this book!

Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

The story about the suffering of his daughter and the frailty of li'l children moved me particularly.

"We love not 'despite' the limitations, but 'because' of them. And of course, it more complicated than that"

Any additional comments?

This book is great, not because it's some groundbreakingly new content and idea that have not been expressed before. It is so as it brings back an important aspect in the spiritual quest that is absent from most new age spiritual teachers: FORM! Most spiritual thinkers have removed everything that even resembles any real manifestation so much so that it is almost impossible to have use of what they are saying.

Jordan Peterson brings back the fundamental(archetypal) stories of our experiences back to the social collective consciousness and for that we must thank him.

This book unlike most self-help books, this book doesn't try to explain the title in almost banal detail. It takes the idea and brings it alive through contrast, variation, and storytelling that drives home the title without having to repeat it once. Only thing I can think of that comes close is classical music.

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  • Tim
  • 05/02/2018

Precise yet broad.

The book points to exact steps for improvement in your life and then goes into depths I haven't even thought about. Sometimes it was too much for me. But in the end it's a must read.

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  • hao
  • 05/09/2019

Too much bible talk

Disappointed to see this book turned into a full-on bible study from chapter 6. Dr.Peterson introduced himself as a psychologist and a scientist, but I see little reasoning with genuine scientific knowledge instead this book is mostly about Dr.Peterson’s personal interpretation of the bible. He often ran off the topic and spend hours to praise and interpret Christianity, he also consistently to refer to the bible and not actual evidences to make his case, which significantly lowered his credibility.

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  • DjM
  • 24/01/2018

Gute Übersicht über Dr. Petersons Philosophie

Würden Sie 12 Rules for Life noch mal anhören? Warum?

Das Buch ist für jeden geeignet, der sich mit den Themen Sinn des Lebens und Moral auseinandersetzen will. Dabei ist es kein klassisches Selbsthilfebuch mit trivialen Einsichten sondern ehr eine Erleuterung und Aktualisierung der Werte des Abendlandes. Prof. Jordan Peterson verbindet dabei kompetent philosophie und religiöse Tradition mit fundierten wissenschaftlichen Erkenntnissen aus Psychologie und Biologie.Das Buch ist eine Fortführung der Philosophie von Prof. Jordan Peterson, für mich ist es eine etwas einfacher zugängliche Version von Maps of Meaning. Für Fans von Prof. Jordan Peterson gibt es nicht so viel Neues, jedoch ist es kompakter zusammen gefasst als seine ehr losen Vorträge und Vorlesungen auf Youtube.Gelesen wird das Buch von Prof. Jordan Peterson selbst. Er hat sicherlich keine klassische Radiostimme, aber aus meiner Sicht ist es am authentischten ihn selber zu hören.

Was wäre für andere Hörer sonst noch hilfreich zu wissen, um das Hörbuch richtig einschätzen zu können?

Insgesamt eine große Empfehlung!

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  • Asgar
  • 12/02/2018

Listen/read only a few pages at a time

Peterson wrote this like a religious book. Repitition is common in a few segments of this book. This can be very annoying if listened to in long sessions. The ending part has a really weird amendments vibe to it, where peterson asks himself questions which he answers himself in a very theatralic way, almost as if god spoke to him. It's a solid book but bloated and at points close to religiously theatralic and vague.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 13/08/2018

Useful advice, drowned in unhelpful rants.

I am actually quite fond of Mr Peterson as a live speaker. But this is a book and not a podcast. He has spent little to no effort focusing, pruning and structuring the content of this book, resulting in an honestly mediocre book. This book is written in two modes. One delivers solid advice from an experienced psychologist and backs it up with a bit of science. That's 10% of the book. The remaining 90% of the book are the ramblings of your demented psychologist uncle. As soon as the advice has been laid down, he launches nonsensically on all directions. You can expect embarrassing attempts at poetry, bible study, rants about his favourite novelists, rants about his hatred of communism etc. While it all fits the bleak tone of the book, very little of that actually connects to the advice and is more like random things that he wanted to get out of his chest. Mr Peterson mentions at some point that there is a one-page version of his 12 rules, containing just the rules. You should find that list instead, and save 15 hours of life.

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  • Henrik
  • 24/01/2018

A timely book - thinking with a Nietzschean Hammer

Würden Sie 12 Rules for Life noch mal anhören? Warum?

I'm going to listen to some of the chapters of Petersons book. The rules about "Rule 1: Stand up straight with your shoulders back" and "Rule 5: Do not let your children do anything, that makes you dislike them." are probably those that I will listen to once more. Not that the other chapters are no good, but those two advices and the information accompanying them, where those that I feel are the most relevant to me.
I've seen several of the lectures of Jordan B Peterson on his Youtube-channel, and there is a lot material, phrases and themes that are recurring in this book. It doesn't bother me, because they bear repeating. I've primarily been taken in by his lectures on personality, where I learned new things, to me, about e.g. the Big Five.
I've been surprised to what extent he is steeped in the existentialist thinking - I've seen that he has does lectures, but I haven't watched them.
His thinking is an amalgam of Jungian, Existentialist and Psychological thinking, where he also draws from literary sources, in particular Dostojevski and Solstjenetzyn.
On the negative side, I must admit that his many excursions in to Jungian thinking, and his interpretations of Biblical Motives leaves me unconvinced. I might give Jung a chance in a near future to see if I've been wrong about him as a thinker, but I wrote him off many years ago.
Where I find Peterson at his best and most timely is on his insistence, that that there are some prevalent misconceptions at the moment about the sexes, childrearing, equality etc. Ideas that are not helpful, but rather hurtful and a hindrance in the pursuit of meaningful lives.
Finally I was surprised and moved by the story about his daughter's plight.
Jordan B Peterson is a timely writer for these times. A psychologist with a Nietzschean Hammer for a pen, megaphoning out thoughts and truths about men, women, sex, children, the left, the meaning of life and existence.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 05/06/2019

12 Rules for Life

Ich kannte Jordan B. Peterson von seinen Youtube Lesungen und hatte von Anfang bemerkt, dass er mir aus der Seele spricht. Mit diesem Buch gibt er genug Material und Anekdoten, um sich selber besser reflektieren zu können. Ich empfehle das Buch allen in jeder Lebenslage, die offen sind. Entweder, man findet Bestärigung oder einen gut begründeten Gegenpol zu seinen eigenen Ansichten.

Ich empfehle hierbei die englische Version, da ich gehört habe, dass vieles schlecht und vulgär ins Deutsche übersetzt wurde.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 14/05/2019

A must-read

Although not always easy to follow, the ideas in this book are eye opening but not overly complex

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  • Sven Oswald
  • 13/05/2019

perfect

It is hard to put down this book...it is that good.
Lessons and rules everbody should live by and try to underatand, so that their life will become even better.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 06/05/2018

lobster gang

it is a very eye opening book about life in general by Peterson. definitely check out his YouTube as well.

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  • marcel mengdehl
  • 21/04/2018

Great book

I Enjoyed the book a lot and i will Read it again .
sou shoud to.

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  • Philipp Müller
  • 05/05/2018

This book is life changing and enlightening!

Every young person from generation Y and Z should read this book! We live in nihilistic times that force us to reevaluate why things we used to do might be important and why we shouldn't just randomly cast aside things that have established themselves through evolution itself. Read this, this book will help anyone understand themselves and the world better.

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