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SMART Recovery USA relies, in part, on research showing that having any vital, absorbing, and creative interest can help people get and stay sober. The Phoenix offers sober activities that can help folks stay physically active and connected. Is it time for you to get out there and find the recovery communities that are right for you?

Host Morgan D. Stewart explores two different, but complementary, volunteer-based, mutual support groups with:

• Dr. Henry Steinberger, one of the early creators of SMART Recovery
• Teresa Susmaras, a mental health practitioner with lived experience of addiction, and SMART Recovery meeting facilitator
• Birdie Murphy, a who has created The Phoenix's first sober team for RAGBRAI 2026

They dive into the many ways hobbies and passions can help people on their unique wellness paths. It's a brief and informative episode where you can learn more about two popular non-profits dedicated to providing FREE gatherings for folks struggling with addictive behavior.

Looking for an evidence-backed peer support addiction recovery group? Check out uHuman's Creative Recovery Lab SM(ART) Recovery meetings online and in-person.

If you’d like to support Murphy’s Phoenix team and help make more sober activities like this possible, visit:https://tinyurl.com/uhuman-podcast-birdie

This episode features a segment originally heard on Wisconsin Public Radio's Wisconsin Life.

This project was funded in part by a grant from Dane Arts, the Madison Arts Commission, with additional funds from the Wisconsin Arts Board.

uHuman's Creative Recovery Lab was also supported by Hello Art Hatchery, REAP Food Group, and individual contributors like you.

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Practicing mindfulness is known to help with myriad mental and physical health issues, including those associated with addiction. Could having a meditation practice also help dismantle systems of oppression?

Host Morgan D. Stewart sits down with Ablossi Tzaphkiel & Sara Bumpus of Recovery Dharma as well as Dave Creswell & Colleen of Madison Insight Meditation group to explore the connections between meditation, creativity, and recovery. It's a powerful, and deeply personal episode for Morgan, about how a search for inner peace led to finding belonging in recovery spaces.

Featuring segments originally heard on Wisconsin Public Radio's "Wisconsin Life".

Sponsored by Art Lit Lab in Madison, WI.

This project is funded in part by a grant from Dane Arts, the Madison Arts Commission, with additional funds from the Wisconsin Arts Board.

Support also comes from Hello Art Hatchery, REAP Food Group, and individual subscribers.

Looking for an evidence-backed peer support addiction recovery group? Check out Morgan's new SM(ART) Recovery meetings online and in-person.

Learn more about how to find your next vital, absorbing, creative interests from SMART Recovery.

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• This podcast is a production of uHuman: a multimedia miracle.

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Host Morgan D. Stewart and Kristi Tanner of Middleton's Sober Social talk about non-alcoholic beverages, the importance of replacing bad habits with good ones, and entrepreneurship as a vital, absorbing interest that can help people in recover live more more balanced lives.

Featuring a segment originally produced by Wisconsin Public Radio's "Wisconsin Life".

Sponsored by Art Lit Lab in Madison, WI.

Learn more about how to find your next vital, absorbing creative interests from SMART Recovery.

Support the show

• This podcast is a production of uHuman: a multimedia miracle.