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Trusts Talk

Trusts Talk

By: Adam Hofri Mark Bennett
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Trusts Talk with Adam Hofri-Winogradow and Mark Bennett is a podcast featuring deep-dive discussions with trust lawyers and academics on a wide range of fascinating issues in trusts law. Through thoughtful conversations, the podcast explores leading cases, emerging ideas, and enduring debates shaping trust law today.

Music: Bundt by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

Adam Hofri, Mark Bennett
Political Science Politics & Government Social Sciences
Episodes
  • China's Offshore Trusts Taxation Reforms - Harry Yu 余亮恒
    21 Oct 2026

    Recorded 26 August 2026

    For a long time the offshore trust was sold to China-connected families as a Swiss Army knife: one structure for tax, succession, insurance, investment and family governance. In July 2026 China's Ministry of Finance and State Taxation Administration issued Announcements No. 21 and No. 15, which set out how resident individuals are taxed on offshore trusts.

    Harry Yu 余亮恒, Senior Partner, Fung Yu Trust Services (Hong Kong) Limited, argues that the announcements are about more than tax. They mark a broader change in Chinese private wealth, from creating wealth to building institutions that can hold it across generations. Harry joins us on the podcast to discuss these developments. We discuss where Chinese wealth came from and why it went offshore. We also cover the new "resident contributor" concept, why old trusts now face an evidence problem, what families may do in response to these developments, and why "the job comes before the tool".

    Harry has worked between mainland China and Hong Kong for more than two decades. He advises China-connected entrepreneurial families on offshore trusts, succession, family governance and cross-border structures. He is a member of the Society of Trust and Estate Practitioners (STEP) and sits on the steering committee of STEP's Cross-Border Estates Global Special Interest Group. He is also an Honorary Institute Fellow at the Asia-Pacific Institute of Business, CUHK Business School.

    You can find out more about Harry, his work, and his newsletter HK Structuring Insights”, at https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/hk-structuring-insights-7336608285988438016/ and his LinkedIn profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuharry/

    China Tax Announcements - MOF/STA Announcement No. 21 (2026) https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c102416/c5251277/content.html the substantive individual income tax framework for offshore trusts - STA Announcement No. 15 (2026) https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c100012/c5251338/content.html filing, reporting and administration - STA official interpretation https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c100015/c5251326/content.html “As at 20 October 2026, the 90-day transitional period for certain historical offshore-trust tax liabilities is drawing to a close. The State Taxation Administration’s 19 October reminder calls for the relevant filing and tax payment to be completed before 22 October 2026 to benefit from relief from late-payment surcharges.”

    Official STA reminder https://www.chinatax.gov.cn/chinatax/n810214/c102374/c102375d/c5253047/content.html Further reading - Lusina Ho, "Family trusts for Chinese clients" (2014) Trusts & Trustees, https://doi.org/10.1093/tandt/ttt223 - Zaif Hassan Fazal, "Taxation of Offshore Trusts and the Rule of Law: The Case of Australia and China" (2022) Trusts & Trustees, https://doi.org/10.1093/tandt/ttac089

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    52 min
  • Felix Chang - ‘Law and Economics’, Wealth, and Inequality
    10 Sep 2026

    In this episode of Trusts Talk, Mark Bennett and Adam Hofri-Winogradow are joined by Felix Chang, the Robert J. Watkins/Procter & Gamble Professor of Law at the Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, to discuss his chapter, "Economic Analysis of Trust Law," in the Oxford Handbook of Comparative Trust Laws, co-edited by Adam and Mark with Lusina Ho and Richard Nolan. Felix traces an arc from microeconomic to macroeconomic analysis of trusts, from John Langbein's contractarian account and Robert Sitkoff's agency costs theory, through to work treating the trust as an input into the wider economy and a vehicle for entrenching wealth inequality across generations. The conversation ranges across asset protection trusts and settlor-retained powers, the asymmetry between contractual and tort creditors, the long-running contract-versus-property debate, and how American legal education folds trusts into estate planning. Felix also reflects on his path into trusts and estates scholarship, and on open questions at the intersection of trusts, race, and public fiduciary duty. References Felix B. Chang's Selected Relevant Work

    • Felix B. Chang, "Economic Analysis of Trust Law," in The Oxford Handbook of Comparative Trust Laws (Oxford University Press).
    • Felix B. Chang, "Asymmetries in the Generation and Transmission of Wealth" (2018) 79 Ohio State LJ 73.
    • Felix B. Chang, "How Should Inheritance Law Remediate Inequality?" (2022) 97 Washington LR 61.
    • Felix B. Chang and Lusina Ho, "Intestacy and Inequality under China's Revised Succession Law" (2023) 72 American Journal of Comparative Law.

    Other Scholarship mentioned

    • John H. Langbein, "The Contractarian Basis of the Law of Trusts" (1995) 105 Yale LJ 625.
    • Melanie B. Leslie, "Trusting Trustees: Fiduciary Duties and the Limits of Default Rules" (2005) 94 Georgetown LJ 67.
    • Robert H. Sitkoff, "An Agency Costs Theory of Trust Law" (2004) 89 Cornell LR 621.
    • Henry Hansmann and Ugo Mattei, "The Functions of Trust Law: A Comparative Legal and Economic Analysis" (1998) 73 NYU LR 434.
    • Allison Anna Tait, "Inheriting Privilege" (2022) 106 Minnesota LR 1959.
    • Allison Anna Tait, "The Law of High-Wealth Exceptionalism" (2020) 71 Alabama LR 981.
    • Eric Kades, "Of Piketty and Perpetuities: Dynastic Wealth in the Twenty-First Century (And Beyond)" (2019) 60 Boston College LR 145.
    • David Horton, "Wills Law on the Ground" (2015) 62 UCLA LR 1094.
    • David Horton and Andrea Cann Chandrasekher, "Probate Lending" (2016) 126 Yale LJ 102.
    • Reid Kress Weisbord, "Wills for Everyone: Helping Individuals Opt Out of Intestacy" (2012) 53 Boston College LR 877.
    • Bridget J. Crawford and Anthony C. Infanti, "A Critical Research Agenda for Wills, Trusts, and Estates" (2014) 49 Real Property, Trust and Estate LJ 317.

    Books

    • John Chipman Gray, Restraints on the Alienation of Property (2 ed, Boston Book Company, 1895).
    • Brooke Harrington, Capital Without Borders: Wealth Managers and the One Percent (Harvard University Press, 2016).
    • Brooke Harrington, Offshore: Stealth, Wealth, and the New Colonialism (W.W. Norton, 2024).
    • Emilie Connolly, Vested Interests: Trusteeship and Native Dispossession in the United States (Princeton University Press).
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    51 min
  • Account of Profits and Dishonest Assistance - with Weiming Tan
    4 Aug 2026

    In this episode of Trusts Talk, Mark Bennett and Adam Hofri are joined by Weiming Tan, an assistant professor at the National University of Singapore and a contributing editor to the 35th edition of Snell's Equity, to discuss his recent Law Quarterly Review article on the account of profits in dishonest assistance. Weiming makes the case for his "equal rigour" principle: rather than asking whether a dishonest assistant counts as a fiduciary, which is the "status-centric" approach he critiques, he argues that equity's commitment to protecting the fiduciary relationship should extend the same remedial regime outward to those who dishonestly interfere with it. Drawing on Ian Jackman's idea of facilitative institutions, and navigating the split between the English Court of Appeal and the High Court of Australia, the conversation ranges across whether an account of profits should be available against dishonest assistants at all, what the causation test ought to be, the danger of treating fiduciary law as a convenient instrument for holding people to account, and the broader craft of doctrinal scholarship. Along the way Weiming reflects on his intellectual influences and his experience working on Snell's Equity.

    References

    Weiming Tan's work

    • Weiming Tan, "Account of Profits in Dishonest Assistance, the 'Equal Rigour' Principle, and the Retreat from 'Status'" (2026) 142 LQR 58. SSRN
    • Weiming Tan, "Bribes, Constructive Trusts, and the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002" (2024) 140 LQR 356. SSRN

    Cases

    • Novoship (UK) Ltd v Nikitin / Mikhaylyuk [2014] EWCA Civ 908. link
    • Ancient Order of Foresters in Victoria Friendly Society Ltd v Lifeplan Australia Friendly Society Ltd [2018] HCA 43. link
    • Rukhadze v Recovery Partners GP Ltd [2025] UKSC 10. link
    • Hopcraft v Close Brothers Ltd; Johnson v FirstRand Bank Ltd; Wrench v FirstRand Bank Ltd [2025] UKSC 33. link

    For a full list of references see this link

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    47 min
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