In this episode of Sassos Out, Frank and Christina sit down in Waverly, Georgia with Pat Long: a firefighter, husband, father, and man whose life took an unexpected turn after a simple bump led to a life-altering diagnosis.

What begins as a casual, funny, small-town conversation unfolds into a powerful story of faith, resilience, brotherhood, and what it means to fully surrender control. Pat shares his journey from peak physical health to battling lymphoma, how God met him in hospital rooms and firehouses, and why purpose doesn’t disappear when plans fall apart.

Honest, unfiltered, and deeply human; this is a reminder that the strongest stories are the ones you don’t see coming.

In this unforgettable road-trip edition of Sassos Out, Frank and Christina sit down in Raleigh, North Carolina with urban visionary, public speaker, and former NYC Parks Commissioner, Mitchell Silver - a lifelong friend of Christina's, with a story that hits hard and inspires even harder. From class president in the ’70s to reshaping cities in the 21st century, Mitchell opens up about heartbreak, second chances, leadership, public service, and the guardian angels that changed the trajectory of his life.

You’ll hear jaw-dropping career advice (including the resume wisdom you’ve never heard before), love-at-first-sight romance that comes full circle years later, and the powerful philosophy that guides his work today: the anatomy and soul of a place. Along the way, the Sassos bring the laughs, the grit, the faith, and a legendary YETI break that only they could pull off.

This episode is about vision, resilience, calling, and why every city, and every person, deserves care, not just maintenance.

Buckle up. This one’s a journey.

What starts with the Sassos doing what they do best - loving, laughing, bickering, and debating paper maps versus GPS, quickly becomes something much deeper.

At Makers, the Sassos step into a night of painting each other (badly), interrupting each other (expertly), and rediscovering the magic of being creative together. Their playful, honest, husband-and-wife banter sets the tone for an episode full of warmth and curiosity.

But the heart of this episode belongs to Kathy and Beaver Brooks.

Frank and Christina sit down with the Brooks to hear their incredible story - one that spans decades, continents, heartbreak, courage, and relentless compassion. From pastoring in Canada, to living in Haiti, to rescuing dignity through artisan work, to surviving trauma, rebuilding their lives, and ultimately creating Makers as a space for healing and creativity… the Brooks open up in a way that feels intimate, profound, and unforgettable.

You’ll hear:

• Frank & Christina teasing each other while trying (and failing) to paint portraits.

• How the Sassos’ quirky chemistry brings out the best in their guests.

• The Brooks’ raw and powerful journey through mission work, danger, trauma, recovery, and hope.

• The birth of Second Story Goods and the artisans whose lives were transformed through the Brooks’ vision.

• Why Makers isn’t just a shop - it's a sanctuary for rediscovering joy, community, and the maker inside every person.

This is the Sassos at their most genuine, two people who love each other fiercely and ask honest questions, paired with two guests whose story shines with resilience and grace.

It’s tender. It’s funny. It’s real.