Hunter Durham went from managing a $9M/quarter Facebook ads book of business to buying furniture and shipping companies, raising outside capital, filing bankruptcy, and starting over, all before 32. In this conversation, Hunter and Kurtis pull back the curtain on what really happens when ambition outpaces structure: customer concentration, broken capital stacks, identity crises, and the slow grind of rebuilding. The thread running through all of it? Accountability, or the lack of it.

Kurtis shares what's been behind the inconsistent episode schedule — including a business partner split and a major shift in Bison CFO's service model — and announces that the podcast is rebranding from Through the Storm to the SMB Finance OS Podcast. The new format pairs with the SMB Finance OS newsletter and will feature weekly solo episodes, topical deep-dives, and continued interview episodes under the Through the Storm series.

Brandon built Aspire CRE, a commercial real estate brokerage and property management company. From two people to 45 in just over three years. In this conversation, he gets honest about what growth actually feels like from the inside: the stress of hiring ahead of revenue, a surprise cancer diagnosis in the middle of it all, and why the wins rarely feel like wins in real time. Kurtis and Brandon dig into the financial decisions behind scaling a commission-based business, the discipline of building reserves before you need them, and how Brandon is using content and media to build a flywheel that legacy CRE firms can't replicate.